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I’m gonna call it and say that the moral of Hazbin hotel is that what’s good and what’s bad morally is subjective.
While this is true all I can picture is a lesson that’s boiled down to “don’t call me out for being a dickhead because I have trauma and deserve to go to heaven” then in celebration there’s a sausage party style orgy between all of heaven and hell that doesn’t include Charlie and vaggie as they become the queens of hell to redeem sinners and Emily becomes god or something but she’s only going to get 2 episodes max
The 'Your playbills are delayed' letter if Mario wrote it
Help, I'm new to Tumblr, and I'm still figuring things out, but I need help.
I just found myself stuck in an argument with two Hazbin Hotel fans about whether or not it's okay to like Valentino. I am very scared rn😭😭😭 I don't know what to do. They keep comparing him to classic Disney villains and saying he's funny, and they also compared him to Darth Vader. Help!
The whole Voodoo thing is one of my biggest complaints when it comes to HH. Also, the fact that Viv got called out on it, and instead of being respectful or just taking it out, she basically said, "It's Okay guys, he's mixed see? It's fine. Also, blah blah, something about dead mother that we never hear about in the actual show blah blah blah. I'm good at representation (even though I refuse to draw people of color) 🥺"
You can not convince me he was originally mixed. His human (and demon form) have no hints to being mixed at all. And that's coming from me, a paper-white mixed person. Sorry, this rand got out of hand.
I agree with everything being said in this post. This post is very well put, not to mention informative and interesting!
So there’s Voodoo but no Lwa?
Before everyone decides to jump me just know that I’m black, I grew up in a very Catholic environment and my grandparents implemented African traditions to worship God. Throughout the years of my dear old childhood, I also witnessed cults and beliefs outside of Christianity and know briefly of a few African Deities, spirits, syren, and many more.
So I can talk about voodoo, I still tried to do as much research as possible, and if someone sees any mistakes in what I say I apologize, be polite when pointing it out to me and I’ll modify it.
So here’s the first thing I want to address…
White people can do voodoo… what? You don’t believe me, here…
It’s been done since the 19th in New Orleans and whoever can worship is a much more nuanced issue.
You see in voodoo, there are these things called Houses (Humfo). It’s a temple where a community of people worship diverse Lwa and are led by a priest or priestess.
It’s a closed religion which means that you have to ask before entering one House. Some may refuse you because you have European ancestry, and I won’t lie Voodoo is mainly dominated by people with African origins due to its roots. You still could eventually find a house that’ll accept you but you can’t randomly start on your own without going through the process of initiation. Don’t mess with African spirits or spirits in general, voodoo is a group activity for a reason.
Now that all of this is cleared I want us all to come to one conclusion. Voodoo is only and ONLY for the people who will respect it. This applies to all religions.
And to writers.
Write about what you know and if you don’t know something research it! Don’t stop at Wikipedia, go on other sites, see documentaries or videos, and get books from the nearest library. Maybe you know someone who is more experienced in the subject you’re trying to write about?! I know it can be a long boring and annoying process, but sweetheart who told you writing respectfully about a preexistent thing was easy? If you’re unable to sit and open Google for research then don’t write about it!
Now that we all agree on something, do these scream respectful representation to you?
[“I care about representation!” Sure Viv, we believe you.]
Okay, voodoo dolls aren’t used for harm. That’s a myth from Pop Culture and Hollywood and it’s one of those examples of African religion being deemed as malevolent by popular media. Thank you Vivziepop for contributing to the stereotype, a big thanks. 🙂
Seriously, the usual voodoo dolls we see in media are usually tourist traps sold in New Orleans but aren't used by actual practitioners. But, there’s a thing called fetish or bocio, usually, those are figurines made of wood and hung on the tree in front of cemeteries to maintain a spiritual communication between the deceased and the living.
From a personal experience, when I was like 10 or 11 my parents saw safou (African fruit) growing near a restaurant, and the owner said to not get too close as fetishes were hung to avoid people from stealing the fruits. So it also has a protection function.
But I’m not here to talk about my childhood, see I mentioned something called Lwa, let’s see what those are.
Voodoo is a monotheistic religion, it teaches that Bondye [Bon Dieu in French literally Good God] is the supreme creator of this universe mirroring him to the Christian God. But he has no evil counterparts so no Satan or Lucifer.
Bondye is disinterested in humanity and innacesbile to us, but he still keeps tabs through the Lwas giving a polytheistic aspect of the religion. People pray to them and give specific offerings depending on which Lwas they want to please.
They also can communicate with us through dreams and possessions. All Lwas have multiple domains of expertise and if you want something specific you’ll have to call a specific Lwa.
Each Lwa has a symbol related to them they are called Veve. It helps them manifest in the physical world, offerings, sacrifices, foods, and drinks are placed upon them.
“Where are you going with all of these informations?”
Here are the symbols that appear every time Alastor gets spooky or threatens someone.
These symbols alone don't mean anything but they are drawings that can appear in multiple veve. Veves are usually much more detailed and they used complete ones with little simplification in the Pilot, since it’s still canon I’m counting it…
My little theory is that if they decided to simply it is because the animators were already suffering so they lifted up the pain by sparing a lot of details. I mean they used the complete symbols for trading cards.
With all of these it is natural for me to come to the conclusion that to get his powers Alastor calls on the Lwas that grant these extremely powerful ✨tentacles✨, weird red gremlins voodoo dolls thingies, deals-making abilities, and probably other things we haven’t seen yet.
Which means that Bondye exists—
“Th3r'$ n0 God in HH. 🤓☝️”
Sure I can work with that, the Lwas exist and are independent, I guess Viv still has creative liberties.
Since Alastor depends on them that means that he chooses specific spirits to gain the specific power that he has, so I decided to search for a few symbols that have a resemblance to the one of Alastor and we’re gonna test Viv's ability to make something consistent.
A rant about Alastor’s power:
Obliviously they are not all of the symbols in correlation with the one in Hazbin Hotel. I just took these to showcase something fascinating with Viv’s writing style.
1. Marassa-Dossou-Dossa:
They are androgynous twins. They represent the power and purity of children, families, and procreation alongside benediction, love, justice, and innocence. They are children, usually, you can offer them candies, drinks, or banana leaves. They are summoned at the beginning of each ceremony after Legba to signify their importance in the religion.
The Marassa are extremely powerful despite being represented as kids. They usually help people who have issues with getting a child or other important aspects like the death of a newborn. While they are mostly nice and all, they are responsible for bad luck and bring sickness when not correctly served or forgotten.
2. Damballa:
He is one of the Loa who helped Bondnye when making the cosmos and, you can imagine, a very important figure.
Damballa is represented by a giant snake and is often associated with St Patrick's. He is the keeper of knowledge, wisdom, and healing magic representing the symbol of life, peace, purity, and goodness. His partner is Ayida-Weddo who forms rainbows, together they use the same Veve.
They are extremely strict with rules regarding their ceremonies. Everyone needs to be dressed in freshly cleaned clothing, women need to wear a white headscarf made of silk. Alcohol, nicotine, and else are forbidden when calling upon him.
Damballa doesn't have legs, so during the possession, the possessed will fall and wiggle on the ground like a snake and sometimes hiss.
3. Le Baron Samedi:
He’s the spirit of the dead, resurrection, and the giver of life, it’s him you need to call if you wanna get in touch with your ancestors. He avenges the souls of the dead (witches, those who were wronged, etc, …)
Le Baron Samedi will heal your wounds if you’re willing to pay back, while it’s not his only ability the rest may be considered sinister since he’s a master of black magic and curses. If someone sends you a hex that brings death so long as Le Baron doesn't let you, you won’t die. Oh and you see the Christian Cross, it’s also his symbol.
Le Baron can manifest himself in our physical realm through specific rituals I won’t bother to describe how he presents himself just search his name on Google and look at the image. Despite being married to Maman Brigitte, he is still known for cheating. He’s also openly lewd quick to swear and likes to mess with people with a big ego.
Usually, his followers can be seen wearing black and purple as he favors these colors but it’s not obligatory.
4. Ayizan:
She’s a sweet grandma and protector of commerce. You can see her with a white dress and deep pockets buying groceries in local markets, and she gives candies to children and people who are respectful.
She’s associated with the rites of initiation in the religion, which is a ritual or ceremony to signify when someone passes from one group to another it implies a change of status in the society. (ex: passage of child to adult)
She’s a typical priestess and knows of the many wisdom and mysteries regarding initiation and the natural world. She’s one of the greatest healers of the pantheon and while she doesn't heal physical wounds, she heals psychically offering health.
5. Papa Legba:
He’s the spirit of crossroads, both metaphorical and literally. It’s symbolizes choices and opportunities. He’s also the intermediate between men and the spirit world people said he’s always in front of Houses. Papa Legba is invoked at the beginning of ceremonies to open the way for communication with other sprites and deities. While he’s mostly benevolent, he can be stern and enforce spiritual rules.
Some may also depict him as a fertility God, a tricker, or a protector of children. In Haiti, he facilitates communication, speech, and understanding. Children like him and he’s often asked to babysit.
He’s associated with Saint Peter since this figure also has keys that grant access to an afterlife.
Debrief:
With all of this informations, we can all agree that none of these spirits works with Alastor as there’s mainly associated with what we could consider a positive aspect of spirituality. Alastor isn't really an example of purity, goodness, and else. Plus his powers have no links to any of the–
“But there’s Le Baron Samedi, he does Black Magic.”
That’s true and he’s actually the only Lwa from my list who could potentially work with Al but there are a few issues. Le Baron Samedi messes with people with a big ego, even if Al decided to work with him it would be quite complicated. Add to that Alastor's respect for women, I don’t think he’ll like to work with someone who cheats on his wife.
But let’s actually think of the potential here, making him a tangible entity Alastor could speak to, would have led to interesting character dynamics with Le Baron mocking Alastor and making him rethink his decision every time he tries and acts selfishly. Le Baron Samedi could have been the one slapping Mister Deer Boy to reality.
Personally, I think it would have been cool to add hints of the partnership by making Alastor’s suit black or giving him purple accessories but Viv's palette of colors is unfortunately very limited to the same shade of red.
“You only listen to 5 deities that appear to be popular, maybe somewhere there’s actually a Lwa that is working with Alastor and you simply didn't choose to show it to us.”
There’s actually one spirit I can think of. Bakoulou Baka, I did not find pictures of his veve unfortunately.
What I can say about him is that he grants powers and wealth. But since he’s associated with dark energy, those things are finite and you’re royally fucked if you don’t repay him in time. He is so evil that people are scared of calling upon him.
Baka in general is a term used to refer to spirits willing to deal with very powerful sorcerers. They pretty much will do anything only if the price is right, they are malevolent spirits who’ll turn on you if you don't do your part of the deal.
Alastor was mentioned to be stuck in a deal, it would be a great twist if the one who got him in this situation was an Evil Lwa he underestimated and failed to repay when he was alive. But we know Vivziepop that won’t be the case.
“You’re too harsh on her those will be obliviously mentioned in season 2.”
Think back to all of the things I said in this post, the different terms like House, initiation, Lwa even the word Voodoo itself, are they even mentioned ONCE in the show? Did Vivziepop make an effort in the FOUR YEARS of production to include them? Did she make the slightest bit of effort to make sure that the new audience knows that Alastor practices voodoo?!! Even by watching the pilot you can’t tell it’s mentioned once fastly by Charlie AS A JOKE.
“IT’$ h@rD t0 Do that.”
Yeah, writing is hard you have to deal with it. And be for real, there’s a scene where Vaggie enters Alastor’s room and sees him eating a deer, rather than see him in the middle of breakfast that could have gone like that:
“What the hell are you going?
– Just a few offerings to keep the Lwas happy.”
Smart people would have been like “What What the hell is a Lwa?” They would have searched it on Google, and Bam people know Al does voodoo.
“But th3 szeN3 w@s to sh0w h3 was a canibal.”
We’re talking of the same guy whose bestie is the cannibal queen, when Rosie proposed fingers to Charlie he could have accepted it. Good now the audience knows he’s a cannibal too, yay!
Religion is an important aspect of characters as it explains most of their behavior. That’s the type of thing you introduce in the first seasons then expand on the second.
And we’re talking of the same show where Husk looked at the screen and told us each of the main character archetypes. I’m surprised Alastor hasn't been called Voodoo Man or something.
I thought of those rewritten scenes in the span of two minutes and you’re telling me Viv couldn't in four years?!
“But HH is b@seD 0n B|blic@l t3xt. Voodoo |s DifeREnt. 🤓☝️”
Are you aware Voodoo is essentially a very big salad of multiple beliefs mixed together rights? You know that one of them is Christianity right?! Some Lwas are associated with Saint, so nothing prevented Viv from making a new class in Heaven called Lwa whose job is to assist the Saints in their task.
When Charlie and Vaggie presented themselves in front of the gates, Saint Peter could have been the one holding the keys and Papa Legba would have been the one reading the book to know who was entering or not.
With the bare minimum in terms of research (1 week), I managed to think of quick easy but effective ways to implement voodoo in the Hellaverse in the span of 2 poor minutes. So why can’t Vivziepop do this when she had FOUR YEARS?!!
Or maybe it’s just that… she doesn't care.
She doesn't care
You need to have a very VERY blatant lack of care for the source material to present voodoo the way Vivziepop did it. Every time the veve appears around Alastor it’s to communicate one thing danger and threat, it’s a harmful stereotype that needs to end people pointed it out she refused to listen.
And it’s because of this lack of respect that bullshit like these happen in her fandom.
Alongside this, you can count the many comics of Alastor using voodoo dolls to hurt/control someone. I’m not blaming any of these fans, I’m blaming Vivienne Medrano for feeding such harmful ideas about the community and not making it clear enough that those symbols are part of a rich culture that people hold dear to their hearts and NOT A FUCKING AESTHETIC
You want an actual example of respect for foreign beliefs?
In the movie Exhuma, the main characters are a shaman and a geomancer, obliviously those who worked on the movie took creative liberties regarding shamanism in Koran culture BUT they actually called a Shaman. There’s a scene where one of the main characters is supposed to do rituals, the actors learn an actual choreography and do it as accurately as possible the shaman was there to supervise everything from beginning to ends.
All I’m asking is for Vivziepop to open Google and do a deep dive. It’s like a school presentation, you sacrifice at least 2 or 3 hours of your days to research your subject, and she had 4 years to do that a little bit of everyday.
Noo it’s too complicated apparently and come on look at these beautiful veve! It’s edgy if I draw them with red on a dark background they look EeViiiIil.
I said it I said it again, if you’re not willing to research as much information about a preexisting subject.
Don’t write about it.
If you don’t have a little bit amount of respect for a religion and care about representing them properly.
Don’t write about it.
Don’t be like Vivziepop.
I personally think the sinners losing their memories would be really interesting if they went in the direction of: In order to be redeemed, you have to make up for your sins. So the show would be about these clueless sinners desperately trying to remember and find out what sins they had committed in order to redeem themselves. Of course, there would be sinners who don't care to be redeemed since they realized they could gain power in hell. Those sinners would become overlords.
Maybe originally, all sinners were supposed to be redeemed, but over time, that concept was lost, and sinners started forming a society in hell, which was originally more of a void like place. Eventually, the sinners start over crowding this space that wasn't made to permanently hold so many people, causing the extermination.
Charlie is desperate for a way to stop the extermination, and she somehow finds out about the original intention of redemption, thus kickstarting the events of the story. This would also make it clear that Charlie knows sinners can be redeemed so that her idea doesn't seem as out of nowhere.
The story would be reminiscent of that game, the last campfire. But instead of the embers being scared to move on, it would be sinners that are too lazy to put in the work or that are content with staying in hell.
Obviously, this would change a lot of things about the story, and there are still a lot of details to smooth out, but I think it could be really interesting. This was a lot longer than I intended, whoops.
(Side note, this would also give an explanation for why none of the sinners act like they are from their time period. It is a pet peeve of mine about the show, along with Angel Dust's stupid boots shorts istg!)
Judaism doesn't care too much about afterlife. Bad people of course gonna get tortured but they won't be tortured forever eventually they gonna reunited in the same afterlife. In christian theology people memory are being wiped out when they reach afterlife. Hazbin hotel should gone with that
It's cool concept. Well if the show still was about redeeming sinners than it would ruin the whole point of the show, but if they choose that Charlie was redeeming imps it would. Plus redeeming imps makes so much sense.
Blitz deserves better (me)
Stolas’ Abuse Tactics On Blitz
Viv clearly does not want you to see Stolas as an abuser. However, there is a strong disconnect between how a writer may want you to interpret the story vs how it actually comes across, and how Stolitz comes across is disturbingly different from how Viv wants you to see it.
Out of curiosity, I decided to look at some abuse tactics online and see how many lined up with Stolas’ behaviour and. Holy shit. Viv is actually writing an abuser without realizing it. Let’s go through every tactic that Stolas uses, shall we? Sexual Abuse
This one is very obvious and I don’t feel the need to explain it.
Threatening
Again, another obvious one; Stolas is directly threatening Blitz by taking away the thing he needs for his job, so Blitz wouldn’t have a choice but to accept the deal.
Gaslighting
Throughout all of season 1, Stolas repeatedly belittles and dehumanizes (or dedemonizes…? Idk) Blitz by treating him as a toy, his “impish little plaything”, and gives off the impression that he looks down on the imp. Blitz clearly feels uncomfortable by this and tells Stolas to stop, but he doesn’t.
However, once we get to Apology Tour, Stolas actively the denies the idea that he ever looked down on Blitz and claims that he never did. Stolas says that Blitz just has this idea about Stolas in his head that isn’t true despite the evidence saying otherwise, and claims that he always did his best to support Blitz.
This is gaslighting. Gaslighting is a form of manipulation used by abusers to make the victim question themselves and their own sanity, which is what’s happening here.
(I forgot to mention the “I never realized you though to low of me” in Full Moon but that line absolutely comes across as gaslighting as well).
Playing The Victim
In that same episode, Stolas sings a whole song about how hurt he was by Blitz, how he “let Blitz get too close” or how he’s a motherfucker, framing Blitz as a horrible person and him as the person he hurt. Given the context here, this reads as Stolas playing the victim, making Blitz out to be a horrible person and singing about how hurt he felt, which again, given the context, this can be read as that.
Criticizing
Stolas accuses Blitz of being like Striker of all people in the first scene of Apology Tour, and says that he didn’t even bother to come save him when Striker captured him (even though he literally sent Millie and Moxxie to save him cuz he was busy).
He then paints and treats Blitz as someone too up his own ass to realize Stolas has true feelings for him, given the context Blitzo doesn’t come across as in the wrong in this scene like the narrative may want you think.
This is criticizing, which is an emotional abuse tactic that abusers use to assassinate the victim’s character as a way of demonizing them.
Stolas is an abuser
How dare they compare the two, Alastor could never 🙄
I LOVE DEMOCRACY!!! 🗣️🔥
Also a very based comment 👇👁️👁️✨
Even if nothing else was wrong with Viv and her shows, you have to at least admit that this is pretty cucked up.
I pity the animators who have to animate more episodes of Hazbin Hotel. Vivziepop’s art style is extremely difficult to replicate, and some of her characters are overdesigned, which makes it painful to draw and animate them.
Vivziepop is also underpaying and overworking her animators, causing her to have a high turnover rate at Spindlehorse. She has already gone through 342 animators during the first season of Hazbin Hotel. Even Bento Box left before the season finale, which left A24 rushing to find more animators.
Whether or not all four seasons of Hazbin Hotel will be completed is something we’ll have to wait and see.
This is absolutely disgusting! Especially her victim blaming the kid, but with the way she writes abuse in her stories, I am sadly not too surprised, just absolutely disgusted. This whole thing is horrible. I didn't like her before, but this just makes it clear to me that Vivian is a horrible person who doesn't deserve to have two popular shows.
All of the proof that we have that Vivziepop is abusive. (So far....)
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1. She rushes her employees.
Season 1 was made in 2020. While Season 2 was made in 2021 while being released with MULTIPLE EPISODES only ONE year later.
That's-
INSANE!
-and im about to tell you why:
The average cartoon needs almost ONE WHOLE YEAR to produce one episode. And this is what we see in MAINSTREAM shows.
Meanwhile, Helluva Boss took only one year (and a half) to make MULTIPLE ENTIRE EPISODES that last over 20 minutes. The longest waiting time for an episode being 8 months. Not even a year, and we get multiple episodes off the drawing board.
You can even see here that it's taken only three years to make 16 episodes. When this is an indie studio, so this should have taken so much longer to make. Yet for some reason, it took only a few years for us to get full seasons. In 2021, we got over 4 episodes alone. Have you ever wondered why these episodes come out so fast while other shows take a lot longer to get new seasons? That's an easy question to ask... Spindlehorse...
Is being ABUSED.
And I have the proof to show.
2. The pay controversy.
Spindlehorse's payment has been under controversy for providing the lowest pay possible to those that work at the studio.
One piece of evidence was given by Adam himself (albeit unintentionally) by saying this:
This kind of pay is highly unstable! And before you say "But he didn't force them to be there-"
LOOK.
The employees themselves admitted that they had no choice. People had no choice and Vivienne Medrano took advantage of that for her own selfish desires. This is disgusting treatment of a studio as small as Spindlehorse. Or any studio for that matter.
Hell! chaifootsteps said once that once Zeurel released that he was paying his animators too low, he deleted one of the tweets showing the low pay and decided to do something to give his employees better wages. Meanwhile, Chimera Bunny pays even less than Viv does and just because paying your workers low is normal in the animation industry- plot twist: Doesn't make it ok!
People have suffered so much in this industry, it's why "New Deal for Animation" exists. The only reason you haven't seen many Vivziepop workers having protests and speaking out is because Vivziepop says things like this behind people's backs if they "dare" do anything she doesn't like:
So that explains as to why so many people remain as "anon" or say nothing at all because they got cold feet. Vivienne's terrible!
Especially since even her top employees have admitted to not being paid enough despite Adam's "I pay them to stay if they make us the most mon-ey!" claims from the article:
Also this:
This is how she speaks about her own employees:
"YOU DONT LIKE HOW I TREAT YOU?! FUCK OFF!"
Straight up abuse.
Also, wasn't Walt Disney known for abusing his employees?
To the point where people had an entire protest in 1914 about it?
Wow... such a healthy workplace treatment comparison. Doesn't make Vivziepop look more like a jerk.... at all! /s
3. She bullies kids/laughed at a sa victim that was sa'ed by her friends. As one kid was bullied into a panic attack (I know them personally) back in about 2020 and Viv decided to vague post about them behind their back even after they apologized.
For someone who's so focused on "forgiving despite cancel culture" she sure likes to blame and harass people for disliking even ONE thing about her show or herself. One thing- and you're harassed over making a meme about a cartoon with fictional characters (What Froot Did that set Vivziepop and Gumball off.)
Secondly, one of her friends sexually harassed a minor.
And instead of acknowledging the sa, Vivziepop wrote this:
She ended up calling it a "joke" and made fun of the victim involved.
This is outright abusive behavior that should not be tolerated.
Children don't deserve to be traumatized this way. Especially over something as simple as making memes about a cartoon (negative or not) or simply telling someone to stop fetishizing abuse.
More on this in this video made by Gummypop:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND-
That's all that I have for now!
Will likely be updating this post in the future. Goodbye!
EDIT:
More evidence of Vivziepop using abusive language and slander against her employees behind their back. Claims of them being a "stalker" (like she did to Kedi and also its clear that she told her employees to say that Kaz was a "stalker" otherwise how else would they be saying these things after she fired them.) along with using abusive language such as "CUNT!" to prefer to Kaz this way in a professional setting I cannot. 💀
More evidence of Vivziepop harassing a kid:
ANOTHER edit:
More evidence, she's burning them the HELL out!
Yet ANOTHER edit:
More evidence of Spindlehorse being abusive:
EDIT:
Even MORE evidence:
The fact that the story AND the storyboards AND the animating for season one's episodes were all done in one year is just so crazy to me like... WHAT?! Either way, this post will continue to extend the more that I find evidence. So remember to look forward to that one!
EDIT:
Sadly no, as animation abuse is so common that the police dont even see it as an issue. The last time I tried to call the police on her they needed a location. The problem? There is no location of Spindlehorse since it's a "private" studio. So because of that viv gets away with abuse despite the obvious implications of her behavior and how many people came out with allegations towards her.
The more I learn about this Raph guy, the more horrified I get. That is not okay.
When it comes to rape fantasies.
It'd be one thing if people were like-
Doing it privately, and in private forums.
But people be doing this in PUBLIC!
Which effects the REPRESENTATION of sa victims. Which is TERRIBLE.
It's why Raph 2 doing it was so goddamn bad.
It displayed rape being seen as a "positive" thing in media.
Which HURTS RAPE AND SEXUAL HARASSMENT VICTIMS.
Especially when said person sexually harassed someone irl.
It's awful, and the more we display violent porn (rape), sexual harassment, pedophillia, incest, and beastiality as "positives" in media the worse people will be treated overall.
That's the problem I was talking about.
It's why when I saw Autistic Swag saying "What Raph did was just a kink!" it made me vomit on the inside because THIS SHIT HURTS PEOPLE! Holy fuck why cant people put two and two together?!
Representing something as positive in media= people will do it MORE. It's why people did more anal sex after it was representing anal as a positive/acceptable thing to do.
So to all the proshippers reading this:
STOP FETISHIZING HORRIBLE THINGS.
AND DNI!
I just watched the piolet of HH, and God damn am I disappointed. Sure, there were some things that needed to be tweaked, but overall, I forgot how good the piolet was! I was so disappointed because I really fucking wish the show was actually that good. Some of the designs needed a touch-up, not all the jokes hit, and of there is the Voodoo problem, but I could see that piolet becoming something good, something worth watching. Unfortunately, we live in the worst timeline where vivsipop was in charge and capitalism rules the world.
I agree! My OC would 100% help! They should team up 😌
I really wish I could put my OC in this show so she would just-
Cuz she would.
That sounds like a helluva time 😉
I really wish I could put my OC in this show so she would just-
Cuz she would.
I agree. I think Alastor has a lot of wasted potential.
Alastor as a powerful demon is a little disappointing.
No really . . . he was honestly lame this season. Viv really hyped him up to be this scary, strong, intimidating overlord who's not to be f**ked with under any circumstances only to show him off as a joke, like the rest of these villains.
Alastor is not intimidating at all. If anything he's more predictable. . . Or I guess predictable is not the right word, but it gives off the feeling like an "I've seen it all before" kinda deal. I mean- I would expect little more than this-
I mean seriously writers?? . . .A giant with tentacles??!! He's not even all that different from his usual appearance?? It doesn't feel original. It's like Viv thought "Yeah, you guys remember when Ursula from The Little Mermaid turned into a giant. Let's do that with Alastor but with less effort." Hell, at least with Ursula, it was scary. Alastor just felt . . . lazy.
And not only that, but his fight with Adam left a sour impression too-
Granted he did better than the scene where he turned into a giant out of nowhere, but this whole fight was left with a rather unsatisfying result. Alastor's fight with Adam lasted for like- a minute and now all of a sudden, he wants to melts into ooze and disappear somewhere??
So you're telling me this so-called "OvErLoRd" got whacked with a guitar ONCE and that was enough for him to bleed and get weak??? He suddenly can't use magic like he's been doing since fighting Adam?? And he just leaves like a sore loser??? I don't care if the guitar was an angelic weapon, it didn't leave that much of an impact. Alastor could've held his own a little bit. It wasn't like he was STABBED to death.
Don't even tell me that it's because his staff was broken that he's suddenly weak, cuz he magically reappears in the final song and is all healed up like nothing happened (cuz pretty much, nothing did happen).
Overall, for an overlord, Alastor is not as strong or intimidating as Viv wants us to think he is. It just looks like he's trying to hard.
I agree. The show never puts in the work to get us to sympathize with the sinners. They are constantly shown to be horrible people who want nothing to do with redemption, and honestly, why would they? Hell is designed for them. They can indulge in all their worst habits as much as they want as long as they are strong/powerful enough. A murder can kill in hell. Why would they want to be in heaven, aside from avoiding the extermination that they have AN ENTIRE YEAR TO PREPARE FOR! I think it is dumb.
One Hell of an Unpopular Opinion #04
The reason behind the Exterminations should've stayed to prevent Sinners from overpopulating the Pride Ring and I don't like how Hazbin Hotel portrays Adam as being in the wrong for hating Sinners.
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The whole, "We kill Sinners for our entertainment," reasoning from Adam and Lute as well as, "I approved of the Exterminations to avoid Hell's Sinners from starting an uprising," reasoning from Sera is so stupid. Specifically, Sera's reason. Because logically approving of the Exterminations would only lead to more and more Sinners wanting to start an uprising with each passing Extermination. Adam and Lute's reasoning has to be the way it is so that the show writers can make it seem like Charlie's in the right when the show gives us reason to believe that she's actively wrong. For example, Angel Dust was born in New York City and into a Mafia family likely somewhere around the years 1912 - 1915 as he's stated to have died in his young to mid 30s in the year 1947 due to a drug overdose. Angel Dust was a mobster for most if not all of his life but he hasn't shown or stated that he feels any remorse or guilt for what he did back then. The only thing he feels guilty for is for his past self having signed that contract with Valentino which is totally valid however making a soul contract with Valentino isn't the reason why he's in Hell. Angel Dust is in Hell for being a murderer, a drug trafficker, a drug attic, a smuggler, and for likely having committed several other money related crimes. I swear, people hear or see the word Mafia and automatically think of death when the majority of their crimes are motivated by currency. Like, its still not good but its not just senseless murder either. The point is, we haven't seen anything about Angel Dust truly wanting to change. Yeah, there was that scene in episode #06 where Angel turns down Cherri's offer to do drugs but that doesn't suddenly mean he's no longer a drug attic for turning down ONE offer. Most of the Sinners we see or know of in Hell are fucking horrendous people. Alastor was and still is a serial killing cannibal because he can. Let me repeat. He WAS and STILL IS a SERIAL KILLING CANNIBAL because he CAN! There is an entire place in the Pride Ring known as the Cannibal Colony (in the show it got changed to Cannibal Town but I've been calling it Cannibal Colony for 4 years now and I do not plan on stopping), Martha's in Hell which makes sense considering she and her entire family were actual Devil worshipers, Loopty and Lipton experimented and killed the poor, and Valentino is a rapist. We still don't know enough about most of what the HH's cast did when they were alive which is why I think Sir Pentious ultimately getting into Heaven was a load of BS. We don't even know why he ended up in Hell in the first place but he tries to help his "friends" once and dies in the process and that's enough to get him redeemed???
Seriously, what did he do to deserve damnation? Also, I know Viv probably doesn't have Cain or Able as that would give Adam an understandable, even justifiable, reason for despising Sinners. His first and oldest son, Cain, is LITERALLY the FIRST SINNER. For what? For killing his younger brother, Able, by slicing his throat with a knife or sharp object in the same manner Able did when sacrificing his lambs. Although, I've also heard that Cain killed Able by bludgeoning him to death with a stone by repeatedly bashing it into Able's skull. Either way, if anyone deserves to hate Sinners the MOST then it's Adam & Eve without a doubt.
She turns everyone into a blonde twink Istg
🗝️Saint Peter Redesign🐓
Since when “Welcome to heaven” episode came out I always thought St.Peter would look like I was shocked and confused since when did St.PETER BECAME A BASIC WHITE MAN LIKE WHAT???
I was uncomfortable when he started singing I CANNOT STAND THIS TWINK THAT MOAN IN EVERY SONG LIKE WTF.
I’m not a Christain but I cannot believe Viv would make another religious figure white like why didn’t she properly read the bible and look up on the internet about Peter?!
I really don’t believe that is Saint Peter that is a different character with a different personality.
I decided to make him bible accurate to his redesign I made him look old and wise.
His voice would be Anton Chigurh from No Country from an old man
I added some fish surrounding his sunny looking halo that he used to be a fisherman in his past life.
The holes on his palm shows that he have been crucified on the cross upside down.
He’s a part rooster angel since the rooster symbolises vigilance and protection for Jesus prophecy.
The blue and yellow robes make him look accurate.
I replaced light blue to dark brown lineart to make him suitable to the warm colour of heaven.
His beard and hair mimicked the water and clouds flowing due to flying and levitation off the ground.
Such a wholesome relationship ♡
angel dust: *tells husk abt his experience as a sex worker + the fact that he's being sexually abused by valentino*
husk: you're a loser babyyy‼️‼️ a loser godamn baby you're a fucked up little whiny bitch– 🫵🫵
This is so unfortunate. It really sucks that Viv is treating her artists this way.
Throwback to when Viv was pissed that someone who worked on the pilot asked for credit for them and someone else before swiftly deleting her tweet.
That is fucked up. Like, genuinely messed up.
The merch got worse
I never posted two times a day about the same thing but I’m just gonna leave that here.
It just feels gross to sexualize the guy whose hypersexuality is the result of sexual assault, if you want more proof that Viv just doesn't give a crap about victims, then I don’t know what to show you. And seriously, now we’re making jokes about the fact that Angel can’t say no?
I genuinely hate this character! I don't know if I have ever hated a character more!
What
FUCKING WHAT
(Love how they used that 'came on too strong' lyric for the scene where he was calling him 'cute' for telling him he better not try and do anything sexual to him and the 'read this all wrong' lyric for when he was asking if he'd be getting anything in return for saving them. Like bitch you didn't read jack wrong you were obviously asking for a sexual reward and got it.)
You looked down on him literally the entire first season and was seen reading an erotic novel about imps in the sheets.
You called him 'little creature', 'big dicked blitzy', 'my impish little plaything', 'blitzy', and had a literal scene where you put a cigarette out on his horn along with pinching his cheek like a child at one point and saying how 'cute' he was for setting boundaries at the carnival.
Bitch he was at the hospital with his daughter. Don't try and fault him for caring about his kin more than the guy who uses him like a toy.
You.
You just used your title Stolas.
You just used your title to shame Blitz for not saving you that one time.
And it ISN'T his place to have to constantly save your stupid ass because HE'S NOT FUCKING OBLIGATED TO RISK HIS OWN LIFE TO SAVE AN IMMORTAL FUCKING DEMON PRINCE.
