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Ok so
Chat Blanc.....
All I have to say is OUCH
Me thinking that things were finally working out for Adrienette in Chat Blanc
Just watched the English dub of Chat Blanc
First of all, that poor hamster has been nameless for too long #givethehamsteraname #justiceforthehamster
Also 'MY PRINCE'??? AND THE 'IN THE RAIN' MUSIC FOR THE KISS??? WHAT THE FRICK??? DO THEY WANT ME TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK???
I’ve said this before, but I hate the “Adrien is a Sentimonster” theory. I absolutely hate it. It doesn’t do anything except make the story worse and send a really fucked up message about Adrien’s character actually.
On the surface, I get the shock factor behind the show revealing him to be a secret sentimonster, but that’s where all the appeal of that idea ends and then immediately burns into a dumpster fire.
Adrien’s whole story is centered around his autonomy and how it’s something he isn’t ever allowed to have unless he goes against the wishes of everyone around him.
Making him a sentimonster is revealing that “no, he actually never had it to begin with, and the idea that autonomy is something he could ever really have is flawed because anyone with the peacock miraculous regardless of who has it could potentially very easily just take it all away from him in an instant, and there’s not a damn thing he can do about it.”
I think that’s kinda fucked up actually, why would someone want that?
plis
No because I know episode 5 is technically filler, I hope its not "useless filler" and actually contributes something to the series, like world development, some kind of character development, or maybe a message that needs to be told or something.
Hopefully we see some of the effects of Umbrella scene 2 on Marinette and Adrien because that scene felt a little underwhelming, especially after seeing everyone losing their minds over it on the internet.
I know that the Umbrella Scene 2 was supposed to mainly showcase how Marinette was taking Alya's advice (I think the theme of ep 4), listening to Kagami, show the friendship of Adrienette, as well subtly show the control Gabriel still has over Adrien (all of these which are very good points), considering what we have seen throughout Mr Pigeon 72, and how the fandom lost their minds in regards to seeing U.S.2 as romantic Adrienette development, I just don't really see why umbrella scene 2 was so significant in regards to romantic Adrienette development and felt the payoff for it at the end of the episode sort of lacked in that area.
Like I said earlier, I want to see some effects of Umbrella Scene 2 in Psychocomedian, whether it be platonic or romantic, though I hope its mostly platonic with some romance between Marinette and Adrien.
And expanding further, it would be cool to see the effects of the Umbrella Scene 2 on them individually, it doesn't really have to relate all that much to the other idk.
I know I have rambled but I tried to explain my feelings on this matter.
I also want to see Psychocomedian before the final episodes air because I am afraid it would hold no importance at all to the season
poor psychomedian no one cares about that episode anymore lmao
I want this to happen so bad now and love your tags
You fools. You absolute morons.
If you think Marinette Dupain-Cheng and Adrien Agreste are going to date post reveal, you’re wrong.
Clearly, they will date in their civilian identities when Adrien tries to move on from Ladybug, but Marinette will break it off because she discovers she loves Chat.
Then, ladybug will confess to a heartbroken chat noir and they will date as superheroes, which Chat will break off because he still loves Marinette.
THEN, Chat and Mari won’t date eachother because that whole superhero and civilian thing won’t work out. And then Mari and Adrien find that they also still love their old crushes.
Chaos ensues. It’s ridiculous, utterly ridiculous. And until they reach this point, the reveal won’t happen. As this is when they love both sides of eachother and this is where the writing will peak.
Mari and Adrien will be a mess in trying to decide. And the reveal will wrap it up in a nice little bow :)
Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
And no I will not take constructive criticism.
I like what you have to say and I'd like to include my thoughts on Felix Chat Noir.
Actual question for y’all: is there any official confirmation that the leaked Catwalker concept art is for the villain of episode 23, Kuro Neko, whose name was changed? Or is that an assumption made by unofficial sources spreading the art around? And is there any confirmation that the character will appear in episode 23?
My first thought upon seeing this was “Felix”. Like he took the miraculous from whoever had it last and used it himself. My first reaction to the name “Catwalker” was like “skinwalker” which reminded me of the evil impostor act Felix pulled in season three, but then I realized that that was pretty dumb since that’s probably not what “Catwalker” is a play on. Plus, if Felix kept going with the impostor thing, why not make himself look more like Chat Noir? I get changing the design so that young viewers aren’t confused but the characters are due to in-universe magic, but I don’t think that’s what’s happening here. What does support it being Felix is that he’s supposed to appear in three episodes this season, all three of which we’re yet to see, and when this art (censor-blurred) was leaked in Lindalee Rose’s video, most people jumped to Cat!Felix.
My second thought: whoever this is is trying way too hard to look like Adrien.
I think my favorite theory, true or not, is that this is literally just Adrien again. For some reason, he loses his miraculous. Gabriel gets it in Ephemeral, but maybe Ladybug gets it back without permanently learning Chat’s identity, and needs to choose a new cat in an emergency, so she chooses Adrien. Maybe she does it because of her crush, or maybe Luka’s trying to lowkey push her, but Adrien thinks he can’t reveal himself, so he redesigns his hero persona. This leads to him having his bangs cut a lot more like his civilian self, and his name, Catwalker, being a pun on his modeling job. He chooses surface level traits that Ladybug would know about the famous Adrien Agreste to hide that he’s actually Chat Noir. My doubt here is that the pose of that 2D concept art is different from both his Adrien concept art pose and his Chat one. The concept artists typically reuse bases for the same characters, and I don’t recognize this one, although I haven’t seen many characters’ art.
There’s a popular theory going around that this is the “new visitor from the future” Winny mentioned once, and that he’s one of the future Adrienette boys. That theory is pretty cute and interesting, but this character’s face looks exactly like Adrien/Felix’s, and the character designers are pretty good at not making kids clones of their parents. Plus, if Adrien doesn’t want anything to do with modeling when he grows up, what would make his kid be “Catwalker”? I’m pretty curious about the visitor, but I’m not sure this is it. I don’t think this is future Adrien either, because he looks young and, once again, is trying very hard to resemble surface-level present Adrien.
About Kuro Neko
I’m not giving up on the sentimonster idea because the Zag influencers have said time and time again that Kuro Neko is the villain of the episode, just like every other “name” episode title in the show. If Catwalker really did get changed to Kuro Neko, he’d have to be evil, excluding the future-son-coming-to-help-theory or him being Adrien, unless Gabriel gave him the miraculous he stole and is forcing him to follow his evil plan.
This, or Cat!Felix, would be really interesting imo, and I’d love to see some angst and big brain plays. But as many have asked, why the Japanese name? This guy seems to be white, and there’s no component of Catwalker’s design that references anything Japanese.
What do have Japanese names are Mayura’s sentis this season. Optigami and Hack-San were both pretty smart plans, all thanks to her. My headcanon is that she’s been taking Japanese on Duolingo while on bed rest lmao. What also ties into Japanese culture is this character who was spoiled in a Miraculous World video, which reminds many people of a Japanese lucky cat figurine.
I’m pretty intrigued by the spoiled models all around, and I love reading everyone’s ideas. Lmk if anyone would like analysis posts about any of the other leaks, but right now I mostly want to know what information has been officially confirmed about them and what is just conjecture. I know that’s pretty hard to place when these spoilers were leaked illegally and Zag wants to cover them up, but if anyone knows, please let me know.
Edit in conclusion: to be clear, the theory I’m leaning towards the most as of right now, (being true based on what we know, not what I want to happen) is that Catwalker is Felix pretending to be Adrien using the cat miraculous. The concept art pose is what throws me off of the “Adrien using the cat miraculous but pretending not to be Chat” theory the most, as much as I like it, and the character having Adrien/Felix’s exact face plus the model pun name is what throws me off the “future son” theory.
I can't speak on this confidently, as we haven't seen the episode "Gabriel" yet, but I think Adrien's growing resentment towards Ladybug is meant to parallel Gabriel's pipeline into becoming Hawkmoth.
I have also come to the conclusion that Adrien's whole character arc is revolved around the duality of the power of destruction, which I get is obvious, but hear me out. While destruction can cause chaos and harm to others, it also plays a necessary part in tearing down oppressive forces.
Let's talk about this scene.
What this scene has communicated to us is, despite the two of them having seemingly opposite personalities, Adrien is indeed Gabriel's son. What I mean by this is that the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree; both have a tendency to get caught up on their projected fantasies involving the people they love.
The position Gabriel is in right now, being Hawkmoth and all, is a direct result of him being unable to process his grief. Much like Adrien and his fantasy of Ladybug, Gabriel clings onto the fantasy of a "better world" with Emilie to cope with his grief and reconcile his guilt. Consequently, Gabriel has now become Paris' biggest threat and he's dealing out collateral damage onto his family (i.e. Adrien and Nathalie).
Adrien is at risk of falling down the same path; Adrien's grief has led to him becoming emotionally dependent on his romantic fantasy involving Ladybug. Even after everything he went through in this episode, this poor boy is still clinging to this damn fantasy for dear life.
Right now, even after everything that happened in Glaciator 2.0, Adrien is still stuck on this cycle of hoping Ladybug will one day fall for him, Ladybug rejecting him and inevitably breaking his heart, him getting depressed and lashing out because of it, him and ladybug reconciling, and then Adrien slipping back into the fantasy again to rinse and repeat.
In order for Adrien to truly develop as a character, he needs to break the cycle. He needs to break the cycle of damage his father is doing to the environment (as demonstrated in Mega Leech), he needs to break the cycle of complacency in his life, and he needs to break the cycle of enabling his father's actions. In order to do that, he needs to stand up to his father and get him to break the same cycle within himself.
If Adrien can't break the cycle, he's going to succumb to it and end up just like his father... or worse.
Because I can already hear them whining about it: the problem wasn't that Chat Noir didn't listen to Rena Rouge, the problem was that he wasn't told the plan.
That's why he listened to Marinette. Not because he likes her or something but because she informed him of what Rena Rouge was planning.
About the interview Max thing, I agree that it’s very possible that the name wasn’t “Max” at all, and that someone more major is messing up SM’s plans, but I, like anon, also love Max so I had another idea. Winny said that Bunnyx will show up in s4, and so will a new character from the future. It’s most likely that she’ll show up in the finale at this point, so who’s this new character that we haven’t seen yet either? I really hope think that it might be Max, who is one of Alix’s closest friends and very useful as a superhero. I mentioned this in a post I made where I referenced yin-yang pairs, and I currently have a draft to expand on those, but I think the rabbit and horse are a pair. Now this may be absolute crack or my own fanfic-like wants, but man I’d love it if they really said “Max” and it wasn’t just him, but him from Bunnyx’s time.
tbh i’d really prefer the secondary heroes don’t get a lot of screentime in the finale. give me rena, give me félix, give me drama, but most of all give me ladybug & chat noir against the world, a duo.
i‘m not super interested in this “character from the future“ thing, assuming it is true. if it happens that’s cool but i prefer to mostly speculate on the characters we already know
You know, with how Risk is emphasizing how Chat Noir isn’t really needed to fight akumas as much anymore, Alya’s increased role as Marinette’s support (both Miraculous-wise and emotionally) and how Gabriel’s trying to send Adrien away, but ended up sending Felix in his place… I’m wondering whether there may actually be something to the “Adrien going rogue” idea. Not in terms of him being pissed at Ladybug, but in terms of him doing his own, independent thing to try and stop Shadowmoth. Risk was talking about how Adrien always “does what he’s told” and saying that he needs to cut his strings, stand up for himself, etc.
SO THAT'S HOW RENA COMMUNICATES WITH THE TEAM!!!!
FUCKING FINALLY!!!
As someone who saw the leaks on twitter and now seeing a lot of people exited for the finale it really hurt me
From one hand I don’t want to tell anything about how this would end because I don’t really wish to ruin the hype
From the other hand I would be sad how disappointed they would be
I may hate what the show has become and I may salt a lot but the last thing I would want to do is ruins someone’s experience with the series
And from my third invisible hand, what is with this show getting rid of characters I love!?
First was Alix, then was Luka, next was Chloe
And now my baby girl, meow meow loser Gabriel!!??
Love him, hate him, you can’t denial the show wouldn’t be same without him
At least I still have Juleka, Harry the clown, Nathaniel, Marc, Plagg and Adrien
For now
So we all saw that clip from Brazil, right?
I am ALL here for supportive parents and Marichat, but also… Tom pls
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