Su She - Tumblr Posts
there are so much interesting thematical similarities between characters of one family/clan in mdzs.
Like the Nies (the only two characters we know of) are ruthless and they all are bound by the undying desire of revenge. Nie Mingjue waited for God knows how long to take down When Rouhan and later even overcame death to get to Jin Guangyao. Nie Huaisang waited for a whole decade to find his brother's corpse and made a very complicated plot to avenge him. They both weren't afraid to get their hands dirty to get what they want. NMJ killed countless of Wen soldiers, and NHS is responsible for MXY's death, all the deaths in Mo Village, probably for Qin Su's death (tho indirectly). And that's just what I can remember. Anyway, they're shared theme is rage (be it quiet or explosive) and revenge.
The Lans, I think, have this shared passion and undying loyalty. LWJ is pretty obvious. Despite how much everyone hated WWX, despite his clan and family being against him, LWJ never stopped believing in WWX. He even went against his teacher/parental figure/uncle to protect his love. That's the dedication right there. And even when WWX got resurrected (thx NHS) LWJ was prepared to die in the Burial ground (if I didn't mess up the location) with WWX. And he isn't the only one in his family/clan.
Like father like son, Lan papa went against all that he knew to protect the woman he loved so much. Even if it meant he had to spend all his life in seclusion, probably never seeing his sons and the outside world, he was prepared to sacrifice everything for Madame Lan.
LCX was also ready to put his everything on the line for JGY. He was constantly supporting JGY, protecting him from harm (mostly from NMJ), and still giving him a benefit of the doubt after all the crazy stuff was revealed. LXC actually makes me terribly sad, because he was PREPARED TO DIE WITH JGY. HE WAS PREPARED TO USE QI DEVIATING MUSIC ON HIMSELF TO PROVE JGY'S INNOCENCE/FIND OUT TRUTH. WHY MUST HE BE USED SO MUCH BY THE PEOPLE HE CARES THE MOST? (Sorry, I'm still heartbroken) Anyways, he isn't an exception to the rule. But he certainly is the most heartbreaking one for sure.
Even Su She, who was only a student in the clan and isn't connected to the family, he was very loyal to JGY, putting his own life on the line multiple times and getting his hands dirty with no questions asked. Su She wasn't the most brave one when he was young, but his devotion literally made him go against the most powerful fierce corpse. No matter how much he wanted to distance himself from Lan clan, he can't escape the loyalty curse of Gusu™.
The trickiest one is Lan Qiren, cuz he doesn't really show very much affection towards anyone/anything. But I feel like his devotion lies with his family or the rules. Despite being super strict, he tries to get LWJ return to Cloud Recesses to protect him from other clans. (The funniest part is that "lets go back to Gusu" never works). Also LQR's and LXC's little interaction in the conference about Wens in donghua made me smile sm, it was so sweet. The funniest part is that he's always whiny, but will cave in for his loved ones. I literally have no proof of him being loyal to his family, but MXTX's own words in an artbook I believe??
I am not really sure about Yunmeng Jiang or Lanling Jin clans, cuz they don't really have so obvious similarities. Lanling Jin's similarity is being connected to JGS, which is not so unique in mdzs. And Yunmeng Jiang is probably having family issues.
The Trash Fires are a Power Couple
An ABO AU where a married couple transmigrated into the bodies of omega!SS and alpha!JZXun
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In their first life, Yin Angye (訚昂烨 / YAY) and Wei Mujing (韦慕晶 / WMJ) were a renowned martial arts director and the CEO of a family-run corporation that had been happily married for over a decade. Unfortunately, a freak car accident took their lives, and they were thrust into the bodies of two scummy cultivators. (You know who they are. Their names are in the header.)
The couple must now navigate this unfamiliar cultivation world while thinking one another are dead. They’ll reunite, of course, and realize they’re both alive in this world, but it’d be much easier if there were less adjusting to be done and politics and a war on the horizon between four of the great sects and the tyrannical one that’s trying to squash them all under its thumb, but they’ll manage. They always did.
Jin Guangyao: Tell us where the Yiling Laozu is, and we'll burn your sect to the ground!
Su She: Uh... Don't you mean "or"?
Jin Guangyao: *aggravated sigh* Tell us where the Yiling Laozu is, *glares at Su She* OR we'll burn your sect to the ground!
Lan Xichen: Well, which is it? That seems like a pretty crucial conjunction.
(I really hope this hasn't been done yet! 😂🤣)
In light of my Villainous/Harmonious Quartet Magical Girl story that I will rarely update, I will at least show how I imagine their transformation to be.
Part 4: Su She
So another thing about Su She that interest me is where Moling is located.
Now Moling is located above the river, but there are no city in that location except for the closest one being Nanjing which is right below the river. I think it was a deliberate decision for the two most prominent clans of Jiangsu to be located at the most famous cities, but just move Moling a smidge up to keep with the narrative of inferiority.
Nothing too groundbreaking, but a good note for fanfiction writers to find inspiration of how to describe Moling climate wise and such in a realistic setting.
So I was looking up what “Moling (秣陵)” meant, and when separate it becomes “horse food mountain” or otherwise put “fodder mountain”.
Fodder: a person or thing regarded only as material for a specific use.
And I don’t know what to do with this information.
The Su Sect uniform (Animation & Live Action)
Starting with the animation, it’s obvious they chose the color pattern white and purple because of Su She’s connection to the Lan Sect and that purple is the opposite color of the Jin sect’s yellow.
But as for the curved patterns on his uniform, it’s actually a wave.
The designer may have just simply saw the cloud and sea patterns and found them similar, so decided to use that pattern. And it does fit with Su She’s character since his sect is located near a river.
In China, waves symbolize the sea or a wish to enter into the imperial service.
Now for his live action, it appears they gave him a white and blue uniform where the blue is made the main color instead of white like the Lan sect. So it’s a simple switch of color scheme.
What does stick out to me is his xiao-guan (little crown) which looks to be made of leaves.
And the pattern across the hem of his robes.
They appear to be vines.
Which may be a connection to the fact that the Jin sect is a flowery one.
In China, vines symbolize immortality.
Headcanons for Su She
(I post way too much Su She content - it’s barely 10, but that’s a lot for me - but I have so much to say, and I can’t do that in the fanfiction I’m writing so I need to just throw it all out to calm down.)
He’s dyslexic. It’s a stretch because he’s in the Lan sect of all sects, but like how many children in our own modern time are left under the radar for certain disabilities, I think Su She may have been one of them in his own small family of scholars. He would have been regarded as simply slow for his inability to read or write correctly, chucking it up as forgetfulness or lack of attention when at truth, his brain literally can’t connect words to meaning, especially with how intricate and complicated the Chinese writing system is. So his family threw him at the Lan sect to improve it (but really just threw him in there so it wasn’t their problem anymore and they had something to say when their shameful family member is called uneducated.)
He has a trained echoic memory. Unable to read or write, Su She relies heavily on listening, so that he doesn’t fall behind on his education. He knows all 3,000 rules by heart, being able to recite any number thrown at him. He can also play any song by listening to it only once since he’s trained himself to listen intently, but the reason he plays them wrongly after building a sect is because of the trauma. He remembers how his deceased friends who died at the Burning would play it incorrectly during practice, and he unconsciously plays the notes that way. Sometimes, it’s simply because playing the music is too painful, where Su She would suffer ghostly stings as if the strings had burnt him. Unable to read music sheets, he can’t correct himself unless someone better trained does it. But even the other former lan sect disciples aren’t experts, so to make up for their mistakes, they do remixes of the tunes, or try to create new music. Modernizing classical music basically.
He is a natural hand-to-hand fighter, which is two-for-two in the Lan sect who do not engage in hand-to-hand combat. Their muscles mostly coming from insane disciplinary training like writing while hand standing. Su She excels in the little bit of physical portions in their lesson, being able to hand stand for hours and do acrobatic tricks with no problem but they don’t actually mean much to the Lan sect. Su She would’ve excelled if he had been sent to the Nie sect or Jiang sect, so he’s not untalented. He’s just incorrectly placed.
Su Minshan never intended to be like Lan Wangji. He did admire him for being an example, but Su Minshan was simply following the rules and doing his best to follow them. I also like to think he held more nuance for the rules than the actual Lan members. Where the Lan sect was fixed and rigid with their rules and Lan Xichen’s certain liberties would be considered ‘bending them’, Su Minshan was more flexible with them, which isn’t a hot take. He is an outsider after all so he had free reign to properly question these rules and come to his own conclusions. Like the rule “promiscuity is prohibited”. To Lan Qiren and his nephews, that means to not act sexual or flirtatious at all like the traditional monk. But for Su Minshan, it means to not weaponize your sex-appeal, but harmless flirting and consensual promiscuous behavior is fine.
He was bullied for his slowness (dyslexia), being abandoned by his family, and trying to be like Lan Wangji (忘机), which gave him the nickname Su Wangji (忘记). As you can see, they have the same “Wan” character (忘) but they have different “Ji” character (机/记). They are different both phonetically and in definition where “机” has a more graceful tone and means “machine/opportunity/quick-witted” while “记” is more direct making it easier to sound harsher and it means “to remember”, so the kids would go “JIJIJIJIJI!” which is also the chirping of insects, so while also calling Su Minshan someone forgetful, forgotten, without an identity, they also call him an insect. And in China, calling someone an insect means calling them “aimless”, so in conclusion, these children are calling Su Minshan “a nobody with no path” while mocking him to remember stuff. He doesn’t blame Lan Wangji because he didn’t spur this bullying, but after the war, Lan Wangji’s own unfair judgement against him brings forth this childish resentment for his bullying.
His gripe with the Lan sect isn’t out of pride but because of Lan Qiren’s choice to save the books and the elite disciples instead of preserving the Lan sect as a whole. He doesn’t blame Lan Xichen or Lan Zhan because he understands that they have to listen to their elders. His hatred for the Lan sect is directly at Lan Qiren for sacrificing the lives of his friends and his teachers, the only family he knew, for his legacy and books. And it doesn’t get any easier when the reality of making such a selfish hypocritical decision that had led to the search for Lan Xichen which resulted in the burnings of cities and towns within the Jiangsu Province just for this one man who only survived by luck.
Su Minshan didn’t push Mianmian out of fear, but out of anger against Lan Wangji. Yes, he doesn’t blame Lan Wangji for Lan Qiren’s choice, but that was when he was able to calm down. But at that time, he was angered that Lan Wangji was once again willing to risk everyone’s life just for one, but afterwards, he does become ashamed of himself, and tries to right his wrong with helping, but messed up. Su Minshan then kicked himself out of the Lan sect right afterwards because he was deeply ashamed of his actions in the cave, and he never forgave himself even though Mianmian did forgive him.
He became a sect leader because he was encouraged to by others. Like yeah, what the general crowd believes is that Su She made his sect out of feelings of inferiority, and he does have feelings of inferiority, but to become a sect leader isn’t an easy thing to do. You first of all need money, and then resources and lastly followers. He lacked the first two categories, but he must’ve gained followers during the war when he went off on his own to do what little he could to help with the war. But why would they follow Su Minshan who wasn’t that great of a cultivator? Well, cultivators and people were literally scattered after the Wens took everything of theirs, and yes, other sects were accepting disciples, but it takes confidence in thinking they will be accepted when a whole flood of other more talented cultivators were joining. Su Minshan was the more promising and safer option, and I think he proved to have leadership skills during the war now that he wasn’t clouded by the Lans, especially around the Western side of the Jiangsu province, so people gravitated towards him.
Su Minshan doesn’t only idolize Jin Guangyao because he remembers his name, but because Jin Guangyao saving Lan Xichen and ending the war, made everyone’s death and sacrifices not meaningless. Which I think plays a bigger part of why Su Minshan tolerates Jin Guangyao’s relationship with Lan Xichen. Honestly, I think Su Minshan holds absolutely zero resentment against Lan Xichen because of the reasons I already stated, and unlike Lan Wangji, Lan Xichen doesn’t judge him negatively either. Not because he doesn’t like judging, but because he is actually aware of what Su Minshan’s genuine issue is because he’s aware of the tragedies his action caused, and it lands harder now that they are both Sect leaders, but he leaves him alone because he doesn’t want to drudge up any unnecessary pain. The damage is too great.
I feel it in my bones that Su Minshan is the master of smack talking. It’s the reason him and Xue Yang would be able to get along. I think it’s the reason Jin Guangyao and him would be able to be as close comrades as they are. I mean devotion is good and all, but like Meng Yao and Xue Yang grew up in the streets and not the good kind, so I don’t think their casual talk is not at all what “Villainous Friends” would be. Like yeah, Jin Guangyao is trying to be all gentleman like and is constantly on edge, but I think in the privacy of his mirror room, he would speak in the strong accent that the Jiang disciples have been written to have, but ten times more harsher. Like think from a pompous British accent to the Italian expressive one. And when Jin Guangyao does have those days and Su Minshan is around, he always have the most clever, below the belt comment to make, which always gets either a jaw drop or a laugh out of the other two. Xue Yang would even do a mock bow when Su Minshan makes extremely clever ones that would’ve gone over other people’s heads.
My genderbend villainous quartet!
Dilraba Dilmurat - Jin Guangyao
Ju Jingyi - Xue Yang
Ni ni - Su Minshan
Xing fei - Mo Xuanyu
I headcanon that Su She was from an aristocratic family and was a black sheep due to his disability, basically having the least unfortunate past of the Villainous Quartet because he seems to be the most “well adjusted”.
But then that got me thinking what if he had the most FUCKED UP background.
Xue Yang: Wait what?
Su Minshan: Huh? Oh yeah, I was born as a slave in a clan of cannibals at a different country. I was supposed to be eaten one day to please a death god that would consume my soul into its stomach that held a hellish realm where I would absorb every sin and misfortune of my killers, so they could remain pure. But then war ravaged the country, but nothing really changed because the famine made everyone else cannibals, but only some of them made a cult out of it. I just didn’t get eaten because I was one of the victims of the plague. I survived somehow, and was chosen by a random cult to become a sacrifice for a god of food. They threw me into the ocean from the top of a cliff. And that’s how I arrived in Jiangsu where an old lady took me in because she didn’t have grandchildren. After I buried her, the Lan sect was scouting for servants, and since I had experience being a slave, I passed with flying colors.
Mo Xuanyu: Wait, doesn’t that mean that the cannibal clan you were tending to were aristocrats?
Su Minshan: How else would they afford to farm humans?
Jin Guangyao: As disturbing as all of this is, I have to ask, how did you become a Lan disciple?
Su Minshan: By accident. I was mistaken for a student because I was cleaning really good one day, and It would be wrong to correct my superiors so that’s how I became a disciple.
Jin Guangyao: ....
Mo Xuanyu: .....
Xue Yang: ....How fuckin’ dare you.
Modern Setting:
Mo Xuanyu: I read zodiac blogs that stated that the sign most likely to be a serial killer is a Pisces.
Jin Zixuan: That can't be true. I'm a pisces and I don't act like a serial killer.
Xue Yang: Don't you keep files of every asshole who insulted your little brothers so that you knew when and where to find them when they cross a line?
Jin Zixuan: That doesn't make me a serial killer. I'm just being a doting and loving older brother figure who'll make sure anyone who makes my little brothers sad will pay for it.
Su Minshan: Now that you mention it, I haven't seen that asshole Zixun or your dad in awhile.
Meng Yao: *BURST IN* Check the news! The police found father and Zixun's dismembered remains at a pig farm!
Jin Zixuan: *Feigning shock* I can't believe that happened.
Honestly, I used to ship Xiyao, but there was too much Su Minshan slander. 🖐🏼 And high key, it feels provoked. They all know that Jin Guangyao’s favorite Sect Leader was him.
She (涉)/She (蛇)
So someone on twitter years ago tried to make a dig at Su She for have the given name She (涉 - wade) as being similar to She (蛇 - snake) because the Twins of Jade were considered to be dragons and snakes were considered to be their inferior counterpart. Even though both characters have different sounds and characters, so they’re nothing alike except for how its spelled in English and that’s even a stretch.
But then now it’s making me go down a rabbit hole because you can pack so much symbolism into Su She that it isn’t even funny. I’m trying to give this man a backstory, and just his name alone is making me go from having him be a basic son of a noble to him becoming a complete foreigner from a completely different country in the Far East of Russia.
Like you have to understand that yes She can mean snake which is inferior to dragons, but dragons are actually made of nine parts from nine different animals. “Dragons were described visually as a composite of parts from nine animals: the horns of a deer, head of a camel, eyes of the devil, neck of a snake, abdomen of a large cockle, scales of a carp, claws of an eagle, paws of a tiger and ears of an ox.”
And you know what the NECK IS IN CHAKRA LANGUAGE. The neck is basically a throat and a nape, and the throat is the blue sound chakra. Blue and sound basically relates to the Lan sect, and as Avatar has taught us, it deals with truth and is blocked by lies.
And I’m like, what does Su She have to lie about. I mean there was the whole Hundred Hole situation which is a lie of omission technically, but then again, we don’t actually know what happened in the background, and it wasn’t like the Jins were advertising it to look for the one responsible (Also totally think that Jin Zixun was the one who tried to curse Su She but it backfired on him, and he blamed the Yiling Patriarch out of denial. It just didn’t make sense for a new founding Sect leader to literally risk his life over being bullied when he had real responsibilities and not out of nowhere. This is literally after a war, so Su She had to be too busy trying to build a sect. Compared to Zixun who had no responsibilities and an actual superiority/inferiority complex.)
And that’s how Far East Russia got into the conversation because I joked about him having the worst backstory, but now I’m like what if the entirety of Su She was a lie. He’s not a Lan disciple or even a native in the Jianghu. He’s a straight up foreigner from a mystical land of snow who survived a genocide, a war, and its aftermath before being fostered into the Lan sect as a secret refugee since he’s still being hunted down for genocide.
And because he’s a target, so much of who he actually is down to an ethnic biological level has to be hidden away. He literally can’t afford to be unique or to stand out, so he becomes invisible in a whole different world.
But yeah, that’s the gist of how I’m trying to shape Su She.
I mean for everyone else, their backgrounds are:
Meng Yao - Born of a brothel worker and Jin Guangshan. His mother was formerly a daughter of a scholar in the North Western countries, but after an uprising, she was human trafficked and sold at Yunping. Hence why she knew how to act like a noble lady with ease, and why Meng Yao has “distinct pupils” and other light features (not from his father, dammit donghua). His mother was tricked by Jin Guangshan into thinking he would buy her freedom because she was wistful for the life she had before. Yet came to accept her fate after she no longer sees him for two years. Falls in love with Sisi who raises Meng Yao with her. Meng Yao helps around the brothel and does odd jobs throughout Yunping to raise money, learn new skills, or earn materials. Accidentally helps a member of the underworld who promises to buy his mothers’ freedom after they achieve their ambitions. However, the stairs incident happens, Sisi is murdered by a jealous wife, Meng Shi has a stroke from the news and becomes a vegetable before they can fulfill their promise. So instead the underworld member provides Meng Yao with other needs which give Meng Yao the experience and intellect to become the formidable natural strategist he’s come to be known for during the war. Finds Xue Yang around the time, and Meng Shi dies a few years later, Meng Yao goes to Koi Tower out of guilt and grief, and then spends the rest of the years living in another city in Lanling with Xue Yang. Meets Jin Zixuan and his dog and become close brothers secretly.
(My main idea with Meng Yao is that despite his background, he actually had a lot of opportunities and access to greater things because of his high emotional intelligence and visionary ideas. However, bound by familial love to his mothers, Zixuan and his other brothers, he takes on the responsibility of taking on riskier positions for the sake of their survival. Achieving the impossible everyday despite the obstacles yet burdened with the immense consequences of his loved ones’ choices and actions.)
Xue Yang - Is actually from the Wen royal family from his mother’s side, but because of a dispute/misunderstanding between Wen Ruohan and his father, his whole family and his father’s clan was killed off. Xue Yang was able to survive because his mother had him hidden in the kitchen oven, and was left wandering southward as an orphan. Tragic losing pinky story happens, and he further travels East until he meets Meng Yao who takes care of him until the war happens. Ends up joining the underworld through Meng Yao’s contacts where he’s trained to be specializing in cruel and unusual interrogation and assassination, but is played off as simply a delinquent on the surface.
(With Xue Yang, the main word is “simple”, hence why he has the shortest background summary. Out of everyone in the Villainous Quartet, Xue Yang is the one to not overthink things, sees things just as they clearly are, and is able to differentiate the lies from the truth. He’s the one Jin Guangyao trusts the most to pick who he should befriend because despite his social etiquette and high emotional intelligence, Meng Yao is actually highly untrustworthy of others for that reason. Xue Yang and Su Minshan being the only exceptions. Mo Xuanyu met Xue Yang first so he’s a special case. Furthermore, I made Xue Yang a Wen because it just seems right.)
Mo Xuanyu - Born from a concubine’s teenage daughter and Jin Guangshan. Had a relatively good life for the first four years of his childhood when Jin Guangshan would visit his mother, but after Meng Yao’s stairs incident, Jin Guangshan abandoned them. Xuanyu’s mother and him were then abused by their relatives, which drove his mother to develop a mental illness where she ends up abusing Xuanyu, too. His social growth is stunted, but he remains intelligent and creative by spending all his time buried in books. Most of them about horror and taboos, so he doesn’t feel alone in his situation. Almost ten years later, he’s found by Xue Yang (the reason varies depending on the story, but main storyline is to find a Jin heir after Jin Zixuan’s death and turn them into an ally), and this leads to meeting Meng Yao/Jin Guangyao, and being designated for an important role. Xuanyu holds no resentment for Meng Yao’s indirect cause of his abuse, and instead finds solace in his brother’s kindness. No incestuous feelings sprouted, but Xuanyu’s odd intimate behavior is due to the lack of love from home (e.g. kissing Jin Guangyao square on the lips because he was told that it was something you do with someone you love, not realizing the person meant love “romantically” and not “platonically”). Jin Guangyao would’ve made sure Xuanyu wouldn’t display it in public for the sake of their reputations, especially considering his marriage, but there may have been a situation where a misunderstanding had led to an incestuous accusation, and Xuanyu played the (disturbingly convincing) insane person to protect Jin Guangyao’s reputation. Also, he doesn’t spend all his time in the shed. He has puppets that he keeps in a hidden storage to take his place, and created the mask to hide the imperfections.
(Now for Mo Xuanyu, he’s definitely the baby of the group, being 10 whole years younger than Meng Yao. My constant idea for him is that he’s the oddest and darkest among the four (the Goth basically) where he surpasses Wei Wuxian in demonic cultivation with ease because he truly embraces the romanticism of death and darkness. When she’s more socially adjusted, she realizes she’s transgendered, and after accepting and transitioning, she becomes more vibrant and feminine (Perky Goth), and her and Xue Yang are more in sync like twins when she is. In the main storyline sadly, Xuanyu doesn’t come to this realization because he has to be the Xuanyu that society is familiar with for Jin Guangyao’s sake so he never digs deeper into what will make him feel identified.)
For Su Minshan, I want him to be the most unordinary person because he seems like such an ordinary person. With the other three Villainous members, they are misunderstood by their intentions, but people are not completely off the mark. But with Su Minshan, he’s misunderstood ENTIRELY, which is why I’m in a rabbit hole. 🐇🕳🐍🐉
Ignoring my fanfictions by pretending to be a stylist when I don’t know anything? Yes. Yes I am.
Genderbend Villainous Quartet Fashion Choices (American)
*I don’t know enough about Chinese modern fashion & its history, so the fashion choices are very Americanized. So this is more of if these 4 went to America for college and tried to blend into the pop culture.
Meng Yao’s fashion: Retro & Chic
I think Meng Yao’s outfits would be heavily inspired by Audrey Hepburn where she wears very sophisticated and elegant minimalist muted outfits, but she’ll add just a small splash of color like warm reds or mustard yellow. She has all of her coats, a ton of boat neck or a-line dresses, and loose yet form flattering casual wear. She definitely has a collection of cloche hats as well as pillbox hats and gloves. She wears simple jewelry and barely any makeup. And once she starts making money, she’d wear Givenchy.
Xue Yang’s Fashion: Punk & Otaku
Obviously a rebel who’d put disrespect and cringe on her outfits. She’d be a punk rocker and otaku nerd. For the former, she’d wear typical ripped jeans, second-hand shoes or platform boots, and a leather sleeveless jacket. But her shirts would just have the progressive statements on them supporting abortion, lgbtq community, Defund the Police, etc. For makeup, she puts it on when she’s in the mood, and when she is, she goes all out with the drag queen look. For the latter, she’d cosplay as some of the most despicable people in anime and wear cringe clothing choices.
Mo Xuanyu’s Fashion: Pastel Gothic Lolita
Into the dark arts and cute feminine things, she combines these two to become a sweet demon of witchery. She’ll read your palm, slice a goat’s throat, and create herbal medicine, but will send you to the hospital if it’s bad because she’s not that crazy. And of course she has athletic wear choices.
Su She: Sporty & Artsy
Definitely the type to hit the gym a lot, so she doesn’t wear makeup or wear jewelry, and is in bland regular gym wear. But when she’s not in the gym and out socializing, she wears clothes she brought from small businesses, thrift stores or she makes it herself, so where the others’ look has a guidebook, her own is a mashup.
Jin Zixuan: So you see Xue Yang and Yu-didi walking across the road. What do you hit?
Su She: The closest convenience store.
Jin Zixuan: What, no-
Su She: No because it's perfect. They always have their ski masks on them. *grabs keys* Xue Yang! Mo Xuanyu! Let's go rob a bank!
The gremlin twins: YAAAY!
Jin Zixuan: WAIT! STOP!
*Meng Yao in the background dying of laughter.*
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Xue Yang: What's your greatest fear?
Su She: Being tricked by the enemy into slaughtering everyone I love.
Xue Yang: Less dramatic.
Su She: Oh, then crushing my boyfriend's neck while he's going down on me. If we're gonna do it, he has to either go sideways or 69 with me while my hands are tied behind my back.
Xue Yang: Kinky.
Su She: No. No. CONCERNED.
I spent so much time doing this than I’d like to admit so I’m gonna just put this out there to justify it. But don’t look too closely because I lazily used Canva to do all this, and didn’t bother with his purple pants and the back lining. Just imagine it’s blue!
Also, I was always bothered by Su She basically looking like a lazy combination of the Lan sect and Jiang Sect with features that doesn’t match how he’s described in the novels! I gave him a sea green color to match with how green the river is. And I got rid of the long hair pieces because I couldn’t properly color around them, but I think he looks good without them.
Found this drawing on google that led me to some kind of Chinese tiktok wikipedia page, which I think is a more true to the novel's description of him. And honestly, I can see why people can't help comparing him to Lan Wangji. He looks like he could be a younger cousin or something, but still very handsome nonetheless.
Definitely has softer and slim features. Definitely gives off a Soft Summer unlike the Lan brother's Clear Winter.
Am I going a little crazy over how Su She is described in the novel? Yes. Yes I am.
But that's how much the donghua upset me.
Also because I want to avoid writing my fanfic.
Disclaimer: I'm not an expert and I can't read Chinese so take these facts with a grain of salt.
So the one thing I focused a lot on is how Su She's eyes are described as "slender", so I searched deep in the internet to find out what eye-shape is considered slender. And I thought it would be the basic monolid eyes but East Asia actually call those eyes "small" and not "slender" like how Westerners would describe it. So I looked up Chinese sites about the eyes shapes and came upon this:
瑞凤眼 (Ruifengyan eyes) which are phoenix eyes.
Now there are two different version of phoenix eyes.
丹凤眼/Danfengyan (above) and Ruifengyan (below)
The difference is that danfengyan is described as "sharp" while ruifengyan is described as "slender". Danfengyan will sometimes be described as slender, too, but when the two are compared, Ruifengyan takes the description all the time. This is because danfengyan is curved inward and outward like a bird fully extending their wings. But for ruifengyan, the curve is softer so the bird's wings are somewhat extended.
Of course Chinese websites use these words interchangeably with which celebrity they claim has the phoenix eye shape, and some of them just have almond eyes or using eyeliner, that it honestly makes me question the legitimacy of this eye shape, but once you looked at enough faces, you begin to notice the differences.
For people with danfengyan eyes would be:
Winwin from NCT 127/WayV
Deng Lun (Ashes of Love - Properly casted)
You can really see the defined curve in both of their eyes as if a bird was leaning down with its tail up about to peck at their nose.
So unless I can see a beak and a tail like them and whoever this lady is:
Those eyes can't be classified as Danfengyan.
Now for Ruifengyan eyes, this one is a lot more difficult to catch because it's almost similar to almond eyes and it's what people with eyeliner can hope to achieve.
But the person who best exemplifies the eye shape is:
Joey Wong (Taiwanese Actress)
You can immediately see from her youth to her older age that she has a defined beak at her inner corner, but her tail/outer corner does not extend as much. This is what separates her eyes from the others above.
Chinese websites often use Liu Yifei as an example instead.
But people will argue that she has almond eyes instead, which I understand 100% because while you can see beaks, they're not as defined as Joey's own which you can see from afar, at any angle and whether she squints or widens her eyes. But for Liu Yifei, you can only see it at certain angles and it's not as noticeable from afar. Also, the distance between the two corners are too close and her eyes are too big and round.
And I just wanna add, Chinese websites also state that Xiao Zhan has danfengyuan.
Which I can see because his beaks are very noticeable, the distance between the corners are at a good length, his tail is long for danfengyan, and his eyes are not too big to overshadow them. The problem is the direction the outer corners are going. Phoenix eyes are upturned, but Xiao Zhan's own is downturned or as if the bird is lying down. In some pictures (without makeup), it looks like it's going up when he smiles but that's because of how his eyelid crease is giving the illusion of it going up. In more relaxed photos, the tail is definitely relaxed.
It's safe to say he has tapered willow leaf eyes instead which has the charm of phoenix eyes, but relaxed. Winwin also has a similar taper but even when his eyes are relaxed, they're upturned.
So there's your two phoenix eyes, almond eyes, and willow leaf eyes with a taper.
Here's more shapes:
Lychee eyes: Liying Zhao (Story of Minglan)
They're like the big anime eyes you'd expect where they're large, round and vibrant, which gives off an innocent look.
Peach Blossom eyes: Kathy Chow (The Empress of China/Ashes of Love)
They're as big as Lychee eyes but longer length like willow leaf eyes, but what really sets them apart is that they're not flat on the face like the others. I wanna say protruding but that word sounds weird.
Triangle eyes: Zhang Ruoyun (Joy of Life)
The inner upper eyelid of their eyes has more of an edge so it makes them look like triangles.
Fox eyes: Dilraba Dilmurat
It's like the softer triangle eye shape with more volume like the peach blossom eyes. Taylor Swift is honestly the best example because there's an angle at her inner upper eyelid and it doesn't sit flat on the face. Yang Mi has been stated to have it, but the problem is that her eyes are too round, which makes her a peach blossom instead.
Alright, so after looking at all of these eyes, we go back to what I was initially talking about which is Su She's eyes, and they are shaped like Joey Wong's Ruifengyan!
My issues with others for the week(the untamed edition):
1.a statement where someone said that jyl has no self respect
2.a big amount of songxiao shippers being complete assholes to people who like xue yang and any ships that involve him with also making fun of his past trauma
3.some of yall trauma comparing (making a competition out of ) wei wuxian's trauma to other characters and in the process disrespecting all parties involved life traumas
4. Demonizing jiang cheng and acting like he ever said his life was better without wei wuxian in general(I'm paraphrasing this one to the best of my ability)