Qsmp Forever - Tumblr Posts
(talking about characters/ cubitos, not cc)
remember a while back... when Jaiden was going through her federation quests arc, and everyone thought her sus and responsible for pomme's not-death?
And when Forever snuck into Jaiden's home/ tree house, and later talked to Cellbit about it..
idr remember the exact words and scrolling through tumblr would take forever. but he did said that he would not react very well if something happened to Richarlyson. He said he would react much worse than Jaiden.
look at what's happening rn (Sept 7-present)
srsly??? really?? I wasn't able to wathc things live bc im back in school. I'm catching up through clips on YouTube and Tumblr updates. I saw a clip on YT of Forever. it has the ticking and i knew immediately that things are going bad for him. (actually, i knew things wouldnt go well the moment i saw the 1st frame of the video clip: his new skin. his distressed, dirty, messy, eyebags, and all)
letting you guys know the insane detail that is the fact that the ticking cant be heard in the vod. it was a TRUE auditory hallucination for qforever. if you watch the vod back he genuinely sounds insane when mentioning the ticking because you cant hear it - the audience could only hear it live and like. MAN is that a good detail to not have it record on the vod!!! holy shit!!!
I saw the first line and nearly cried.
Cellbit, Cellbit, Cellbit, come down
Won't you get up off, get up off the roof?
You're scaring us and all of us, some of us love you
Cellbit, it's not much but there's proof
You crazy-assed cosmonaut, remember your virtue
Redemption lies plainly in truth
Just humor us, Cellbit, Cellbit, come down
Won't you get up off, get up off the roof?
——
Cellbit, Cellbit, Cellbit, come down
Won't you get up off, get up off the roof?
The self is not so weightless, nor whole and unbroken
Remember the pact of our youth
Where you go, I'm going, so jump and I'm jumping
Since there is no me without you
Soldier on, Cellbit, Cellbit, come down
Won't you get up off, get up off the roof?
Loathe the way they light candles in Rome
But love the sweet air of the votives
Hurt and grieve but don't suffer alone
Engage with the pain as a motive
Today, of all days, see
How the most dangerous thing is to love
How you will heal and you'll rise above
——
Forever, Forever, Forever, jump now
You are absent of cause or excuse
So self-indulgent and self-referential
No audience could ever want you
You crave the applause yet hate the attention
Then miss it, your act is a ruse
It is empty, Forever, so end it all now
It's a pointless resistance for you
——
Forever, Forever, just put down the bottle
Don't listen to what you've consumed
It's chaos, confusion and wholly unworthy
Of feeding and it's wholly untrue
You may feel no purpose nor a point for existing
It's all just conjecture and gloom
And there may not be meaning, so find one and seize it
Do not waste yourself on this roof
Hear those bells ring deep in the soul
Chiming away for a moment
Feel your breath course frankly below
And see life as a worthy opponent
Today, of all days, see
How the most dangerous thing is to love
How you will heal and you'll rise above
Crowned by an overture bold and beyond
Ah, it's more courageous to overcome
——
(Song: Achilles come down by gang of youths)
(In which Cellbit is comforted by his husband and others as he starts tear at the seams because of his double life
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Tubbo meanwhile uses his past experiences to save Forever from himself)
there was stuff happening to q!forever, according to the liveblogs, but i suffereed from the ad breaks. I didn't know that q!Cellbit spied on his friend until i switched POV. and i can't stay bc i have stuff to do, but i know i will miss the clock noises. the clock noises will disappear in the VODs. maybe the music will too. idk. i want to experience it live.
at least, i got to see q!forever visit "Richarlyson" live.
anyways, anyone heard of the Happy Pills animation meme? Edit: tag me if you make one. i wnt to see it. i want to see talent.
ForeverPlayer is a wonderful roleplayer and actor. His current story arc is going wonderfully in how he's using the sounds and how we are reacting and how everybody else are reacting in character. I want to share something i noticed in his YT channels.
In his Forever Live channel, his 2 recent VODs. "LIVE: QSMP -_ CADE MEU FILHO!_" is the day he starts to break down from the eggs' disappearance and presidential duties. when he starts to lose his mind.
you can not hear the clock tick tock.
Most recent VOD is "LIVE: QSMP -_ TIC… TAC… TIC… TAC….". You can hear the ticking. I was concerned that we wouldn't hear anything in his VOD of that day.
In his Cortes do Forever channel, he has an edited video of his descent to madness day. "EU VOU FAZER TUDO… POR ELE! | QSMP DIA 170"
YOU CAN HEAR THE CLOCK NOISES.
song sugggestion: Surface Pressure from Encanto soundtrack
everyone is counting on him
TW: blood (a little bit) sea of tags below
Plus d'étoiles ... ? No stars ... ?
I can’t find it anymore but want to rewatch. maybe the title was in a different language. Idr.
someone made a short qsmp animatic of q!Cellbit and q! Forever in the office, arguing and yelling. (The Cellbit’s betrayal arc) But then they break characters and laugh. You can see the main animation pause, and their animated content creator selves appear. They have their microphones, they’re laughing. It’s cute.
who made it?
This was in BBH's QSMP fandom wikia page. The last paragraph in the Forever section box under BBH's relationships. "While all this is going on, Tubbo told Forever about his suspicions that Bad has kidnapped a federation worker, leading to trust issues between the two because they love miscommunication and can't talk to each other. After a very angsty exchange between the two, Forever gave Bad his daily flower and left; but shortly after they were bickering like an old married couple again. The interactions they have vary greatly, from supportive encouragement to scathing words. As such, the exact relationship is unknown."
Who wrote this? It's hilarious. I love it.
Forever: Phil, it's so unpleasant to have you here-
Baghera: Oh, stop it guys. I know you love each other, I know.
Phil: Jones, I'm so sorry for his- I'm so sorry for his behavior. Um, he's-
Baghera: No, you love each other! I can see it.
Phil: No, I definitely don't love him.
Forever: Yeah you know, he- he- that's the worst kind of people, the ones that talk smooth, you see? People that talk pretty-
Baghera: Aw, you're cute. Both of you.
Phil: Jones. Do you want to know something terrible that's gonna- that's gonna make you not say he's cute anymore? Are you ready for this?
Baghera: Yeah, I'm ready?
Phil: He has an ex that looks like me.
Baghera: [GASPS]
Forever: Look look look what you are going to say, Philza!
Phil: And he's trying-
Forever: Take care with your word! Take care of your word! I'm tougher than you now, I can kill you Philza!
Phil: He was trying to make me sound like his ex.
Baghera: No, Forever Player! No, you can't do that, it's the worst! D:
Btw, for no reason in particular, what was the exact side effects of the cucurucho happiness pills? I don’t really know Portuguese so I don’t know if Forever explained it.
I’m just curious and totally not cooking something rn
I made a meme
Image ID: An image of Edward Elric + an image of Marvel’s Venom = an image of Dark Link (Ocarina of Time 3D) . A statement on the very top reads “Forever’s Lore Right Now (QSMP)”.
cc! Forever really dyed his hair for this.
@v@ looks more like Dark Link now.
Lumilla Lopes, @ludylops Post about Forever in English, using English translate
(I will not be adding her links and videos. If you want to see that, you can go on her twitter, here is the link- https://twitter.com/ludylops/status/1744171674378113415)
(Sorry if I messed up by forgetting to translate a tweet)
Hi, I'm 35 years old, I'm a data scientist and I decided to compile a giant thread about the accusation of p3dof1lia against a 27 year old streamer who lives Minecraft. Be patient as there is a lot of information here, complex definitions and delicate topics. The Forever Affair.
I'm a woman, I work in development and data, I make a living doing complex and objective research in the areas of crypto and marketing, environments that I consider very dangerous and in need of more education.
I've loved games since the Pentium 166 and Atari. I've been following the ecosystem for years
First of all, I feel so sorry for the young people who are experiencing so many triggers from this. I see fandom members devastated, and not knowing how to act. It saddens me very much.
I hope with this thread to give you some warmth and direction, through information and personal experiences.
I've been following QSMP since Cellbit joined, and today I only watch it from POV@oibagi(o/ Jorges) and some lore summary videos. I think the context is enough for now. Well, let's go.
Forever is not p3dof1lo. But it's not right either.
Calm down, breathe, follow the thread 👇
I mean, I can't even say that, because I'm not a psychiatrist and much less had the opportunity to talk to and analyze the boy.
For the same reason, no one can say otherwise, so he cannot receive this diagnosis until a doctor analyzes and diagnoses him.
Come, follow 👇
This issue is extremely complex among experts in both the medical and legal fields, so be aware that communities are fighting in a highly minefield with little chance of delivering a positive outcome from all of this.
TRIGGER ALERT
Therefore, I will try to update you as neutrally as possible on what these definitions are today.
📝 What is P3dof1lia?
This word has undergone several changes and classifications over the years. Currently, we must first separate crime from psychiatric disorder.
P3dof1lo Disorder
According to the most recent studies (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, DSM-5), P3dof1lo Disorder is characterized by recurrent and intense fantasies, desires or sexual acts involving children (usually aged 13 or younger).
Because 13 years old? This is where puberty happens, the biological and physiological transition from our child body to a more adult phase. Girls start to develop breasts, menstruate, and boys are proud of their first hairs and their voices become more dysregulated than autotune
However, dear padawans, biology is not an exact science, so entering puberty is not like the evolution of a Pokémon. It can happen at 11, at 15, and it's a process. And this 13-year average estimate is changing over the years.
Studies indicate that, in the 19th century, this number was between 15 and 17 years old, and today we have more and more cases of earlier puberty. And why am I beating around the bush so much on this subject?
Let's go back to the definition of the Disorder. The catch is: the definition of a child is not universal and that is why it causes so much confusion. In fact, the current age of those involved and the complexity of the context are extremely important.
According to the Oxford Dictionary, a child is a “human being in the phase of childhood, from birth to puberty”. Puberty is currently defined at around 13 years of age, but is not exact and varies with the years.
And that is why the age of majority in many countries is 18 years old.
The terms “child” to define P3dophilia Disorder and legal majority are not the same.That is why, in Brazil and in several other countries that are signatories to the Convention on the Rights of the Child, we adopt the term “child and adolescent”, as in our Child and Adolescent Statute, also from 1990.
And here we have 11 years being the divider.
Now, go back to the leaked Forever prints and conversations. There is, to date, no indication that Forever has a disorder that makes him feel constant sexual desires for pre-pubescent children.
This is a fact. But did he commit any crime? There is no “crime of pedof1li4”, just as there is no “crime of ADHD” or “crime of sadism” (sadomasochism is considered a paraphilia, as is pedophilia).
So what crimes are foreseen related to this topic?
In the Brazilian criminal code we have:
👉 The 3rd rape of Vulnerable
(Remember that this definition was only included in 2009. At that time I was already in college, that is, all these definitions are still very recent and cause a lot of confusion even among experts.)
👉 Child Pornography
"Present, produce, sell, provide, disseminate or publish, through any means of communication, including the world wide web or the internet, photographs or images containing pornography, or scenes of explicit sex involving children or adolescents."
Leaving the field of crimes against children and adolescents, we still have:
👉 S3xual Harassment
Everything that has been released about Forever so far does not seem to fit into any of the crimes presented.
But does this mean that the attitude he had in 2016/2017 is morally correct?
No. But history is made to change the future, not the past
Take a test for me: ask your parents what gender identity issues were like when they were younger. Or what are neutral pronouns.
Why do you think that so many people are only coming out now?
If we were to condemn all past attitudes by the morals of the present, from the millennials behind, everyone would be cancelled. And you will be canceled in a few years too.
History is made for us to learn from it and change the future.
Why do we subject ourselves to entering a history classroom and reading about slavery, Nazism, racism, machismo? To do different in the future.
But the past is in the past. New laws cannot apply to attitudes made before their conception. Nor moral values.
What we colloquially call today “pedof1li4” is often not related to psychiatric disorder but rather to the result of a patriarchal culture where women need to be much younger than men.
Therefore, the 20, 21 year old Forever was not supposedly expressing a sexual desire for pre-pubescent children, but rather replicating and continuing an ancient culture where women mature much earlier than men.
Therefore, a 15-year-old girl would be on equal terms playing and trash talking with a 21-year-old adult.
However, today we know that this is a lie and the trauma it causes women.
But what's wrong?
The definition of “harassment” may need to be updated.
In Brazilian legislation, Sexual Harassment is applied in an employment context, such as a boss who makes sexual jokes to an intern, and she does not defend herself for fear of losing her job.
However, I have been observing that, with the emergence of the internet and social networks, teen idols are increasingly closer to their fans.
The influence and power that an idol can represent for their teenage fans is comparable to that of a boss in the workplace.
Teenagers harass idols. They send nudes on Instagram. And knowing how to deal with this is still something very new, as the idols are also new.
It is in this fertile field of uncertainty that the cancellation gains strength, and it hinders this debate rather than helping it.
The dangers of cancellation When I see comments about “the Order Paranormal community is toxic, the QSMP community is toxic, the community canceled Jão again” I don't even understand where these discussions are taking place.
In the past, communities were formed in centralized environments, such as forums and chats.
I found out it was on Twitter and Tiktok. Which leads me to the question: how on earth does a Twitter community exist? Twitter even has a recent community tool, but it is still underused.
All the thousands of information and opinions on the subject pop up in millions randomly in each person's feed depending on what the algorithm chooses for them. It is almost impossible to build a chronology or logical line of facts posed by fakes that go viral from time to time.
And lost millennial as I am, so are journalists, advertisers, legal advisors and all the professionals who have the sad task of trying to extract as much information as possible from this chaotic world and take some action with their team of influencers or clients. Poor boomer judges who have to deal with cybercrime cases. Justice is slow. However, Twitter is too fast. Judge and demand action immediately.
At the time of this thread, Forever has already lost followers and mentions on pages, risking losing projects.
What we have now are creators giving up on their projects, abandoning their communities, all because we still don't know how to deal with the social and technological changes that are getting faster every day. Misinformation spreads faster than information.
Of crimes against honor
If being a young asshole in the past is not a crime, imputing false crimes and unfairly attacking a person's honor is. In legislation we have 3 crimes associated with honor: Slander, defamation and insult.
Anonymous profile does not save.
Each generation has something to teach, but also to learn from the previous one. I saw the internet grow.
This isn't nostalgic talk about “ICQ was still good”. Crosses. But I lived the world without the internet, and with the internet.
Returning to my personal perspective, I started an engineering course in 2007.
There were only 2 women in the room. Not only did I experience all kinds of machismo and harassment, I also practiced a lot of female rivalry. And homophobia. Several of these women are my best friends today.
Many of them I don't even want to see painted gold, but many of my colleagues who shared photos of me in bikinis when WhatsApp came out are my best friends today.
As? IM crazy? Uninformed? No.
As time went by, I was able to see what was a portrait of a sick society, and what was an individual character. Together, as friends, we discussed a lot. We fight. We touch wounds. We learn.
Some of the college “catchers” and bullies even took on a new sexuality when they came to terms with themselves, and saw a safer world emerging. We eliminated from our vocabulary expressions such as “viadinho”, “mute servant”, “samba do creole doido”.
We learn to accept the consequences of our actions. Therefore, those who remained after this whole process were worth taking for life.
But this all takes time. Search. Study. Anonymity allows this.
However, these young public figures are being pressured to go through this process in public, and without time.
They need to post a mature statement within minutes, as mentions accumulate on Twitter.
Here's part 1: (link)
This is the perfect post for me to reblog and add my thoughts to. (I know that op is pro-Forever, so there is a bias. Bear with me.) I had shared them to my sister, and now I share to you.
First and foremost, this is NOT me condoning or condemning ForeverPlayer's actions. This is me criticizing how the internet responded.
Guys, remember all the various different viewpoints shared around during the fiasco? Remember the many social media accounts breaking down and picking apart the 3 different sides (the accuser, the accused, and the young woman who never started the accusations) involved in the situation? for analyzing?
If you do, then you should remember the weird detail of the fact that the accuser is a Forever anti. You can search through the "forever situation" tags to find the analytical/ investigative posts. There is proof that the accuser is a Forever anti. maybe also a Brazilian anti (is that considered racism?). They do not deny being an anti.
The worst part is...
It's not fair.
It's not fair that it is so easy for the internet to accuse someone of crimes or heinous acts. "N-zi, P-do, r-pist, homophobic, ab-ser," etc. Only for then realize that the situation is much more complicated than surface level. I agree with OP that it's so easy to slap on these bad words on your headlines because of how attention-grabbing they are.
It's not fair that it's so easy to cancel someone or to jump on the hate train because "everybody else is doing it."
It's not fair how easy it is to give so much power to internet trolls and accusers and antis. Seriously, look at how much recognition they gained once they made the accusations. Look at the effects. look at the chain of events. I repeat: The way how we responded to the events gave the accuser power.
and they won.
and that power will grow. This is a prediction. My prediction. But if all Tumblr chatter are theorizing correctly, then we must be very careful. Remember that other people analyzing the situation and the anti pointed out the detail of the anti trying to target Pac and other Brazilians? Whether or not that anti/accuser was the same person, there is proof that the Forever accuser is also a anti-Cellbit. I know very well, from experience of observing the internet, that we will not see the end of any type of accusations towards QSMP members.
The internet users will give fuel to the fire, in a blind rage. Because justice and righteousness is important than fact-checking. Why win points in doubt and scorn when you can win points in praise and agreements?
Those antis will not stop. they know they can get away so easy. If they won 1 battle, who's to say they can not win another?
"it worked! I got what I wanted!"
And we let them.
Part 2
Forever
I have seen amazing artists and content creators come and go, and some get taken out by cancellation. Whether it was true or not, I’ve seen the fellow painter and aspiring film maker be chased off respective platforms or generally scared away because of the negative effects of cancellation. They will be canceled over stupid things they did in the past close to a decade ago or over something that isn't true. And honestly, I'm sick of it. I don’t care who you cancellers are, I want to rip you apart with fangs and claws. And I'm sick all of you trolls getting what you want.
There was one artist I knew who made the most beautiful pieces and one random asshole one day called them out for being a pedo. Were they? No, and how would they even know anyway? But everyone just jumped up and dogpiled her. I tried my hardest to intervene and tell her not to listen to what they had to say, but the damage had been done, they succeeded and chased her off. And I will never forgive them for that. Such a talented person chased off and for what? To stroke someone's ego? Because they were jealous? It doesn’t matter. This terrible rage in my stomach has been building up with every artist running away with the fear of being cancelled and I can’t take it.
When it first began, the cancellation movement, some foresaw how bad it would be and realized that they didn’t want to face it. For example, my beloved Jenna Marbles. Who knows, maybe she was tired of the whole YouTube scene to begin with, she had been doing it for ten years after all, but she decided to do her own cancellation to free herself from someone bringing it up instead. Maybe she realized how dangerous this was and that she should just leave before it was too late, cause with 2020 and that cancelling movement on the horizon, I don’t think my girl had the strength to keep up. She did her own cancellation suicide and fucked off, escaping criticism by criticizing herself. And I was heartbroken. Still am. That it had gotten so bad that a content creator would freely air out her own dirty laundry to feed the rabid wolves and make her escape. And there were those who relished off of it. Happy she was gone. Making me sick and fueling my anger even more.
And then there were more. Mostly men, cancelled here and there. I won't name names, but we know them. Know who they are if you followed any cancellation ever. And chased off usually over some stupid shit they said in their twenties or being accused of grooming. Which the former most of the time seems easier to bounce back from then the later. Being called a racist, homophobic, etc., can be subjective. Especially during this day and age when the internet is so unbelievably sensitive to everything because they read every word with malicious intent towards themselves specifically. But so many content creators get targeted at the height of popularity or just because they were extremely popular. It’s obvious. So well known, and the bigger they are, the harder they fall. And some if not many, y'know, don’t deserve it. Some if not many don’t deserve cancellation and I will bite with so much rage in my being on their part. I know they can probably take care of themselves, but there are so many who can’t. They can’t hold on in these seas of accusations.
And then there are those who bounce back. Many will argue that they shouldn’t, but after time many seem to have forgiven what they were canceled about or just simply don’t care. Like Mr. Logan Paul for example. The man had such a lack of sense that he filmed a dead body and posted that on Youtube. And now he is doing interviews for Mr Beast. I just find that one... Interesting? Now, I don’t know much about Logan Paul except for all his drama. I don’t care too much for him cause he’s pretty loud and that hurts my ears. Nor is his content for me. I don’t know much about him as a person at all and can’t speak on behalf of his character. I don't know if Logan Paul grew up or gained some common sense, but what I do know is that he held out. He washed off all the judgment and accusations, drama or whatever and held on. Which seems to be the only cure for cancel culture on the internet. Is to endure.
And I don't want these trolls to feel more empowered than they already do. Cause I hate these trolls and want to cave their teeth in. Or maybe expose them too. Show your face, cowards behind the screen. You accuse those who are wide out in the open of the most terrible things, at least have the balls to say it to their faces instead of hiding in your monitors.
And frankly, when has cancellation ever helped anyone? I find it very useless and it just hurts people. Maybe if it was directed at large corporations or films making ugly versions of sonic, then I could see that as impactful. But no, it usually goes after the individual which is just so stupid. Hounding them about the past and past shit they said. So idiotic, it baffles me that people still allow it. To let the trolls say they have moral superiority over you and what they say goes. Gross. And you just know that these bastards on the other side of the screen have done shit too. They’ve said the wrong thing to the wrong person. Probably worse. Made the nastiest of jokes and comments. And are just being hypocritical and immature. I know I am also not above people and stupid dark jokes and these trolls should quickly learn this too if they know what’s good for them.
And these cancellers certainly have a lot of time on their hands. They might be young. Maybe. Might be a stupid kid which if so I could expand the notion, that if it is a stupid kid, then yeah, they could be forgiven for what they've done one day as I would expect these content creators to be forgiven for the stupid shit they said in their youth one day too. But also, what they did was horrible. I would respect Forever if he actually went about suing someone, but I don’t think he can sue a child. But still, what a horrible child. If only their parents knew. That they are dismantling lives just because they find someone annoying.
But to be for real and realistic, I think this person is some sad boring unemployed troll who resents him for whatever reason and this is their way of retaliation. And with that... Forever get their ass. He is upending your life and attempted to do the same to some of your friends. Get em.
And lastly, if Forever really was a creep, which no he is not, I want to ask Quackity if he did background checks on any of these content creators? Or did he just invite them in which I could see as a major oversight. Because these creators, I feel like when inviting them into something like a Minecraft server, it’s akin to a sponsorship. It supports your project but you have to do a thorough background check to see if they are safe for stream. Which is just why I found that it doesn't make sense at all that at least Quackity wouldn't know about Forever’s past! With how rife and pungent cancel culture is now, if I was him, I'd be so on edge. Especially if it’s my passion project was on the line. And he should know what it's like, even at his young age, he should know from what he's seen. And maybe the QSMP was seen as something small at first so he didn’t make the precautions, but once QSMP was getting bigger, wouldn’t he have checked? He should have been able to as well. Some rando online found these tweets thanks to pure spite, I'm sure Quackity and co could have done some digging sooner, months earlier and have made a decision. So this, this here, makes the least sense to me out of this entire nonsensical situation.
But hey, if Forever somehow is a freak which I can tell he’s not, then I will eat my words. But that is not today.
(Same with part 1. I will block you if I find you too annoying. My temper is short and my block button is sincerely right there.)
(But I have said what I wanted to say. There is probably more. But Goodbye for now.)
Hi hi i should feed tumblr its been a while
This post was made back in october and id like to clarify that i do not support the cc's actions whatsoever.
As of January 14th 2024, i will no longer be drawing or mentioning the cc nor character. And although i personally liked the cubito's lore and story arc, i feel its best to disregard his character if possible from here on out.
Ok so… who is richarlison looking like to because you know he has fi-no six dad’s. Is it Big papa forever or weird maniac cellbit? Because their the one’s that pass the most time with him.
along the lines of the "eggs changing to look like their parents" headcanon, Tallulah slowly looking more and more like Phil the longer Wilbur is gone
in fact, both of Phil's kids not looking like their other parents anymore because they're never around
Gegg is gonna wipe the competition