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Okay but The Magicians has:

A bisexual man with depression that isn’t cured by love or discovering magic

A Native American woman who is suffering ptsd because of sexual assault and is never belittled for this

A woman who is allowed to be intelligent and sexy at the same time, as well as being selfish when she needs to

A gay man who suffers from alcoholism and drug addiction that isn’t treated like a joke

An Indian-American man who calls out racism, homophobia and sexism, and supports the women in his life

A Mexican-Indian-American woman who starts off as a party girl and becomes a great ruler who is allowed to be a bitch

A Native American-Israeli woman who is both mean and compassionate and these traits are able to coexist

A black man who is blinded but still retains his position of power and badassery

A woman who seemed like she was being brought in as a plot device but became a fleshed-out character with a storyline outside of her husband

Villains who are pervs and rapists and paedophiles and never shown as redeemable

A deaf character played by a deaf actress who is powerful and her deafness isn‘t just a plot device

A trans actress portraying a character who started as a villain and became an incredibly complex anti-hero

Three of the seven main characters are sexually fluid. The “coolest” of the group can speak fluent nerdom. The women are more badass than the men. The world is full of magic. And their vocabulary is a sailor’s dream. If you aren’t into The Magicians, what the fuck are you doing?

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I want you to know, it’s your bravery that made me see.

The Magicians + Harry Potter references

favorite quotes ≡ Julia Wicker

“Maybe sometimes life is random and unfair. You know, it doesn’t always ask our permission. It just is.”

It sounds so naive to ever believe that.

Julia and Alice casting Battle Magic at each other.

Julia Wicker in Will You Play with Me?

Hot unkillable elder gods in your area 

Question!

1)Why didn't you have Penny 23 astral project into female Knights dreams, instead of wasting his one-off magic? Then he could have stopped Alice from destroying the keys or at least stopped the library from controlling Magic. Not like that one off kill the mistake creature or whatever but there's a ton of s*** that that would have been better at and then it's one of pennies natural talents to go into people's dreams.

2) and the mistake creature must please get the information from the host at least if they're not completely aware or like some kind of weird Blended have Elliot half creature consciousness to even know Quentin's name or that he was going to be his caretaker / guard or whatever. And if he didn't know that Quentin was going to be his caretaker why would it go after Quinton first or how would he know what a goddamn card trick is. On a side note I also totally be okay if it's just because that's eliot's life partner and he saw that through his memories!

3) Does Margo's fairy eye still work? How does that work?

4) how much time has passed since they've been mind wiped to when Eliot / creature shows up. And what exactly did Eliot get possessed and what happened with the Knight girl?

5) What's happening with Quentin's Dad! Did he get sick again? Is Quentin going to get back his memories and find out his dad died when he didn't even know who he was! Oh God don't tell me about do that to us! And also did he tell his dad that he wasn't going to be coming back cuz he was going to play at the caretaker / Jailer thing,so is he even expecting him back?

6)Is Julia still a goddess or not. I mean at the end I know she said that she's not connected to anything anymore but at the beginning she wasn't connected anyways and she had to grow the spark so does she just have to repower up?

7) Dean Fogg what the hell!!! I'm feel like I'm missing a conversation or an entire C to explain why he made the deal and what the f*** happened. Cuz this s*** don't make sense! And it feels kind of like he's up to something or is that just my hopeful view of it.!?

8) Fen acting has hike King permanently until further notice Or is she going to come? Hey if so tick actually got what he wanted in a way. Fillory ruled by a Fillorian. Just not the one he wanted I wonder who he would rather have serve the children of Earth or a commoner. LOL

9) are we ever going to see our Penny again like at all. Between Persephone AKA our lady Underground with Julia and Hade's interaction with Penny all leading up to what happened with the finale and everything does it feel like they're pulling the strings.

9) and this is a throwback question that I just had. If she is the head librarian who gave her that title like who's above the head librarian? Bureaucracies of the library that's probably a book who gave her that tide bike who's above the heads library? Bureaucracy use of the library I'll probably a book.

10) You know the moment they turned magic back on and then Dean Fogg, Irene, and the f****** traveler dude came and put the Syphon on and everything; was anybody else expecting Quinton to summon that s*** right out of the back door. Cuz magic was already on a couple seconds before you think it would hit them first or almost instantaneously shut on cuz I felt it almost instantaneously when they shut it off. Those f****** had magic and they were just laying there on the floor if you can summon s*** out when there's a beast in front of you and your Frozen,you can summon s*** out even if there is some b**** high on fairy-dust trying to stop you!

And those are just my immediate questions after watching the finale. I'll probably have a s*** ton more ones I think about it and we watch like the entire season.

Found MY HAPPY PLACE, MOTHERFUCKER!!!! Rant Part 1: ALICE????? Damn that’s Long!

Let me just start of with DAMN!!!!!!! WHAT AN EPISODE!!!!! MOREEEEEEEEE!!!! 

Ok admitting it now I was a main Queliot shipping since pretty much Season 1 episode 1 when Eliot looked Quentin up and down the he was trying to figure out which end he was going to start eating first (innuendo intended), and it only got stronger the longer I watched. Soooooooo..... I’m going to be going off about my ship but I’ll keep it to the end. 

I will be the first one to say LOUDLY in fact that Alice has been one of least favorite characters since even before the series started. (No, not just because of my ship. Didn’t like even before that.) Seriously I didn’t want to even start watch at when I first saw the trailer with her in it, and ever trailer after reconfirmed my decision till I accidentally started watching it on Netflix , got a few minutes in and found out I don’t just have one female character I hated I had two Julia. My positions on Julia are now very complicated but I love watching her character arc now, even if I can’t get all the way back behind the her like I do with the others. But my very ardent dislike of both Alice and pretty much a majority of her screen time has been pretty damn the same 80% of time. Sure there are moments that I like or find cute or interesting but the pass usually rather quickly. Mostly because a majority of her character, her arc , and/or just her personalities’ tend to be prime examples of bad writing tv tropes the I have come to HATE SO MUCH. No not cliche trope cause I can like those if give the right context, though Alice isn’t anyway. I mean shortcut, cheat-codes,bullshit handed to you on a stick TV tropes that just diminish what they are trying to say to move on with the story instead of giving it what the story needs.

  Until this episode... this episode I actually wanted to talk about her, and not just in an angry and annoyed rant. Well not only.... ITS PROGRESS! Further more it gave me hope that it will continue.

Alice.........................(Starting Mainly focused on Character , then Relationships)

One of the few times I was actually fully invested in her story in that wasn’t based on any other character in a positive light was when the group go to Plovers house, and they discover the truth. So it only makes sense that the episode that makes me hopeful for her story going further starts with her and Plover. (Side note: I have seen people say Quentin calling back to Plover, being his favorite author is him trying to lessen what Plovers crime’s but I don’t see that way. But since its a Quentin focus that really does have to do with Alice; I’ll get into that later.) Her argument with Plover about his sins and her point of view on of he can’t be trusted to get what he wants let only deserve it goes as a really interesting rhythm to her and Q interactions. Though I really don’t know how I feel about the comparing of those to two. Especially considering the thing Q is stonewalling her about isn’t even the killing and torturing of creature some even children, but the betrayal and Plovers is sexually assaulting a child. But to address her question; No, I don’t think her sending Plover to the Poison Room makes her worse or better. Its one of those things that everybody has a different answer but no one knows what they would do till it happens. Her sending him to him “Death” (She didn’t lock it and we didn’t see him die, ok.) IS understandable. The thing I think that might, MIGHT put a tally in the worse column is that she didn’t stop to ask that question until Q’s reaction to her reveal. Only made worse by the way she revealed. Like she wanted a metal, reward or a pat on her head for it. (Which actually took a hit about the one thing she had going for me that the other characters didn’t, her independence. Even in her most dependent moments; she loved Q, but he was never her crutch.) But it moved on quickly from that so it wasn’t so bad.

Now on to the relationships..... I loved this episode in case you can’t tell, but what I loved most about this episode was what it did for the relationships. Yes I said RELATIONSHIPSSSSSS, plural, that right all of them. What it closed what it open, put in focus ALL OF IT especially what those relationship did or will do for the characters. But this rant is about Alice’s relationships (YES mostly Quentin because most of her relationship are Quentin or Quentin by Proxy). So let’s talk.

I should probably say that I love that the group (Quentin, Julia and by exception if nothing else: the rest of the questers.) have forgiven her, and don’t want her around. No that is not just Alice hate. It’s freeing in a way and it one of the thing that gives me hope about being further invested in her story arc. I don’t actually want or think they should forgive her or let only trust her, not yet at least. For one, she hasn’t actually apologized. Two, she hasn’t in any way actually shown she thought her actions were wrong, all she gave is justifications and I’m sorry I caused this because of my action not I’m sorry for my action, which is one of the main reasons everybody is pissed at her, her action not just the unforeseen thing she had no way of predicting. I have seen a lot of people saying Q should have forgive her like he forgave Julia, since she did basically the same thing. But the way I saw and interpreted this actually different. I am not really Julia-apologist with the view that she can do no wrong and is completely justified. In fact as previously stated I started off hating her just as much sometimes more than Alice and now I do generally enjoy her story and seeing where it goes along with her adorable moments, mostly with Q I still can’t bring myself to like her. (Mostly for what she did to Q in that one episode.. You all know the one. But that’s for a Julia centered rant.) But it actually isn’t the same thing.

Sure when if you strip down the story to the most basic detail sure it has similar lines. One of the group does something betraying or otherwise and the rest of them if not the world/worlds end up having to pay for the backlash and its all that characters fault. I HATE when stories do this, and so many do. They strip down the details to make one person/group understandable or forgivable to another because they kinda sorta did the same thing expect for all the important stuff but ignore all that. No, the the devil really is in the details. They are IMPORTANT. The how, why, when, where are actually very important, not just the what. If they weren’t you wouldn’t bother spending money and time showing them to me and I wouldn’t care. I call it  FUN-HOUSE EFFECT. I HATE IT, SSSSSOOOOO MUCH. It is BAD writing and it’s everywhere, even in really good shows, shows I love. Which just made that more excited about the writer not take the easy way out with Alice. Because that is what the Fun-House Effect is the easy way out, instead of the right way. The right way where forgiveness is a journey to get through no a detestation to move on from, and no I don’t mean a redemption arc. Though I do love a good one. I would like to point out it they’re not always the same thing. It cheapens all involve the origin sin oh now I understand sin along with the forgiveness sin along with all the feelings involve. Especially, because when writer use it to get the forgiveness the character and the story plot involved or driving by it don’t get what makes it all worth the pain, closure and since they never really get it in the story we never really feel it. I mean think about it this way just because two song about the same thing does mean they are the same and like any song it should be able to justify itself on it’s own. Putting them side by side or together in mash-up of any kind should enhance them both not diminish them. If it does it bad writing in a song or a story. I’m probably getting to carried away with the bad examples, and I’m totally getting carried away with my Fun-House rant.

Like I was saying sure in its most basic forum it’s one character goes against the group and/or does something stupid and all of them if not the rest of the school/kingdom/world/worlds has to deal with the backlash of that person/people’s action. Everybody else when they made their stupid/selfish/selfless ‘betrayal’ it was them putting themselves or someone else before the group/world by making a different decision but that was their choice. Even if it meant going against the others. Josh when he ran back to Brakebills, Penny when he sold out Quentin to be expelled, Julia when she took the knife or, Kady when she took the battery, Eliot when he shot the Monster, even Margo with the Fairy deal, Quentin when he didn’t help Julia ,they all made choices that they put in front other people’s and those people were mad and then forgiven it was a journey to some and understandable to others. Wrong, selfish and/or stupid choices they were but they all made them but the one thing they didn’t do is try and take away their choices and Alice tried to do that. Kady said best herself last season Alice doesn’t get to make that choices for everybody. In fact Alice made her choices she didn’t trust herself around magic, that’s why she and took the Memory Potion that was her putting her self above and before everyone (And actually her explaining it to is one of the moments I like of her in the last season and felt generally invested in), her leaving Breakbills after the whole thing with her brother her choice. What was not her choice was trying to make sure nobody had magic, because SHE thinks they don’t deserve it. To add insult to injury they were so busy trying to defend themselves from her trying to take away their choice it left them completely unprepared for what came after and just to spit in their face it turns out she took the potion so she wouldn’t have to face the consciences of said action. And she only trying to make up for the insult. That’s one of the main difference in situation about everything else. 

Other points as follows;

Quentin and everybody already didn’t trust her when they let her in on the quest after discovering  she was working with the Library but they gave her the benefit of the doubt because of what and who she to them (Mainly Quentin) before without her expressing anything learned or changed trying to take their choice away and give control to the Library. And oh look she changed her method but she still fucking tried to take their and everybody’s choice away about magic. Different plan same objective.It makes total sense that not only would they not forgive or even try understanding anymore even more so considering that they were all trying to do that before even going as far as to not want her help. I mean if someone who had tried to take away my choice while ‘helping’ before tried to ‘help’ me again in any way I would shut that shit down as fast as possible. So I loved the show’s reaction to her. Even more I love what I think it means for her next. Growth for Alice in a positive way, which don’t think she actually had.

Alice herself hasn’t grown in a positive way like all the other character. If anything thing happen to and/or around Alice beside for some and I do mean some aspects of her relationship with Quentin almost always went negatively toward Alice’s character. Her discovering what happened to her brother, her parents, dying, killing the Beast become a Niffin, coming back to life, being without magic, being around Quentin, Not being around Quentin, getting Julia’s spark, almost dying again, having to give up Julia’s spark, her dad dying, her trying to find her knowledge of magic again, making a deal with the library, breaking a deal with the library, destroying the keys all of it in a negative way. Just when you think it couldn’t go deeper into worse she gets a magically shovel and starts digging, Hell even the supposed good parts, with Quentin are linked  with how bad that relationship was at the start and how toxic it became. 

With Quentin very much shutting the book on them, it gives me chills with where her character can go. What I see come to her. Connection not related to Quentin. Like previously hinted at when talking about her independence, Q was her connection not her crutch. Which is maybe the one thing that their ship has above the others to me in a positive point separate some of the other main ships in the show, even platonic friendship ones and it has a negative impact on one if not both. Do they grow and become better somehow to sometimes, depends on the ships and situation sure. But you take those to and they get better apart. One of those main bad writing tropes that is all over Alice is that they never have her make a connection outside of Quentin. Even the moments she has with almost all the other characters is only happening because of Quentin indirectly or not. Now with Quentin and her at a close(thank god) she can hopefully start making other connection and those connections can help her grow like the others’ connections have helped them grow and change in both bad and GOOD ways.So she can finally get to a person she wants to be, again. Not the same person because that Alice is dead and gone and has been for a while. (Took you long enough to see and accept it, Coldwater.)

Hopefully Our Lady of the Tree or Underground send my hope to the writers. 

Yeah I see a lot of people trying to compare what Julia did with the Best to what Alice did with the keys and I don’t really see it like that. With what Julia did with the Beast it was putting herself and her choice before the groups, selfish yeah but understandable everybody on the show does it. Everybody in real life does it. But Alice with the keys wasn’t about her and her choice. She already had the potion and the way to make it work. That was HER choice about magic. When she destroyed those keys she was trying to make everybody else choice for them because she couldn’t trust their choices that she had already decided to remove herself from. While they eventually come to understand everybody else selfish choices and even forgive them, earning someone trust and forgiveness back after some even tries to take away your is something all together different.

i know a lot of people are arguing against julia and quentin being mad at alice in this ep and while you do you and like who you like i think they are justified to be angry? the whole gang sacrificed a lot to get those keys. 

benedict died because of the abyss key, then they lost penny to the library trying to get it back. while the mosaic life was beautiful and they both appreciate, eliot and quentin spent over fifty years trying to get that one and it cost one of them dying to get it. the unity key trapped josh in a musical illusion for who knows how long. 

and they all did all that not just because they wanted magic back, but because whole worlds depended on it to live. we know that fillory was shit at growing food and they were starving without magic, and yeah eliot fixed that in season 2 but like. a lot of worlds were magicless. and even on earth there were a lot of helpless people because of it.

then without saying a word to any of them beforehand, alice waltz in and destroys all the keys. let’s not forget that margo wanted to murder her right on the spot! and that when julia took the beast away, the gang was pissed at her and didn’t want to help her– remember how part of the plot in the heist episode was how to convince the others to rob a bank to help julia? that eliot and margo did it because they also needed the gold, and penny mostly agreed because of kady?

my point is it would be weird if everyone went and welcomed with open arms when they had no idea she’d been trapped in the library. from what they saw, she was working with them.

Can I just say FUCK THE MAGICIANS.

I mean I was working on my rants for the magical episode that was season 4 episode 5 for each character and it just kept on getting away from me with each new episode so it's just going to wait until the end give my overall. And then this f****** episode! I am so beyond pissed off at this episode I am disgusted at this episode I don't even think I can go back and re-watch any other season because of the combined shitstorm that is the end of season 4! And the sheer f****** deceit lies and basic spit our face will patting themselves on the back that was the combination all season 4.

Ok, Fuck canon here's what actually happened.

Quentin dying and everything after was just a hallucination do to a psychotic break that's been building since about season 3 so for about 2 years. What happened in the mirror world is he thought about stopping and letting himself die after Penny and Alice left for safety reasons and Victoria the other traveler that we know was trapped in the mirror world came and saved his ass.!! Being a psychic that she is and being stuck in the mirror world for about a year along with being tortured by the Beast gave her excellent Mental Health radar and took Q to the hospital where you could get the help pain medication that he has so desperately needed and was took it away from him all the way back in season 1. Along with herself because she a little batshit crazy right now. And they become best friends it actually call each other on mental health issues instead of enabling and pushing people off further Cliffs. And Quentin is going to stay a while well he gets better and everyone else finally realizes Quentin is not their emotional punching bag so they have to go through season 5 without Quentin to fall back on. And Eliot continuously visits Quentin although does not confessed yet because he is waiting for Quentin to get better and focus on himself to show that he in fact will choose Quentin every time.!!!

Margo does not in fact put staring at a fish not even kind of boyfriend above her entire story arc for the season of getting her best friend back. And she realizes that she should have call Quentin out on his mental health a long time ago as her other best friend. Then continues to slap whoever implies that she wasn't showing emotional strength in her relationship with Quentin and Eliot long before Josh ever became an idea in her head.

Julia does get saved but you know sin penny is a psychic he mentally ask what she wants to do about her own body therefore taking back the own her own agency for herself. Along with coming to terms but how she totally ignored quinton's mental health decline when she was one of the ones that should have known and have warning signs and alarms going off because she was there when he first started getting bad at 16 and probably before. And finally get quinton's backstory of suicide attempts instead of just depression and institutionalization by having Julia confronted. Along with finally actually confronting what she did to him in season 1 episode 4 that still f****** kills me and is one of the things I'm still hung up about Julia I am still hung up about it. Especially with that bull shitt apology. That's not you saying you're sorry that's you shifting blame.!!!

KADY did not regress into I just want to be pennies girlfriend Portia taking away her entire progression this season and pretty much every season. Let's mention belittling one of the few ships actually showing to be okay didn't have all that much of a problem with it. And even relating Kady issue with wanting to die to quinton's for the growth and connection but two characters we have only seen connect about other people would be awesome.!!!

And how about we stop trying to take away adoption is in fact a druggie and making him up all too entirely wholesome in his relationship with Margo. It gives a really weird kind of vibe that only goody goody st. Could love Margo in honestly that's total b*******!! What the f***. He's one of the few examples the more we see of them the less of a character he actually gets.

Not to mention instead of the one-off morning b******* suicide is the only solution we got we can get all the characters even the ones that haven't interacted or connected with Q before to react to his mental breakdown.

Penny23 just stops getting carted around as a convenient plot story and gets to explore and contrast his relationship with his timeline 23 and here instead of just focusing on Julia and a really creepy kind of way. And we finally get some explanation on the whole Alice was the only Survivor of timeline 23 yet when we go to timeline 23 there's penny. What the f***

Even cooler is we can get to see Elliott try and grow into somebody emotionally ready for a relationship instead of just throwing him into what and say he is ready. Which will take the entire coldwaugh while ship into a whole nother level.

Find you want to do a time Jump In fillory, okay will do its time Jump In fillory but not 300 years with some b******* where we don't actually get any resolution on any points that has actually been set up in fillory that's not throw away. Move it forward a couple decades and we get to see a how often has grown as a person. The world has changed and the slow impact that they as king and queens because they are still paying in Queens there's four Thrones okay. Has had on fillory. And if you want a villain to be thrown in fillory just throw Plover back in so we can finally get rid of his ass like we should have done in season 1. Seriously why did nobody take Quentin up on the trying knife out on him seriously???

Everybody else can do with the McAllister b**** still after everybody. While trying to keep Clinton safe in His recovery. And the ramifications of The Magicians and hedges working together in a world setting. The library can also be headed play Zelda of the old order and Harriet since she had the right idea in the beginning instead of handing it off to Alice thing. Alice can go back to trying to find her own way since last was when she was interesting instead of taking somebody else's path.

Quentin the white protagonist? I'm sorry what?! Huh

Okay the more I think about the writers excuse for killing Quentin off, the more enraged I get! Yes for all the reasons we've said before the fact that he's a mentally ill depressed person that he's actually the bisexual in this character that takes away from the whole white male protagonist stereotype and all that. But the thing that kills me the most isn't even in all those transgressions against our Darling by King!! It's the fact that they have never given him the respect of the white protagonist hero in the story that almost nobody else gets they've never given Quinton that. Every story of the white male protagonist has that specific role get something Quinton has been lacking in the story and from its characters since pretty much episode 1 season 1. A voice about his own choices and not being overwritten by other characters when he show something voice something or tell something that doesn't fit in their perspective of what he is or isn't.

The white male protagonist in the stories don't have to fight but a little moves that fight to other characters and the writers themselves trying 2 override or we write his choices or words in regards to himself. But Quinton on the other hand not only fights but loses constantly not only his voice but respect for his actions and his Regard in who he is not to the storyline which would be part of the story and the characters and writers right but as a person himself. From episode 1 when they have Alice disregard his triggers and worries about doing the ritual to just the season when they disregard his clearly declining mental state and suicidal actions and his sexuality. nevermind that Quentin just went through 50 years basically being married to Elliott no he's not into dudes because Elliott doesn't think he is. he's not suicidal because Penny says he's not at the end. Alice isn't a trigger for him because Margo told him he needs Alice isn't a trigger for him because Margo told him he needs to Alice isn't a trigger for him because Margo told him he needs to pussy up to do this thing that they don't even have to do together. Quentin himself pushes away pup poppy decides she's going to sleep with him to get rid of his panic attack which is rightly earned from him and his further trying to take away his voice and doesn't understand what she's doing when they bang yet pure bulshit that is basically an assault on a traumatized person by the person that traumatize them know that is never called out. Yet it if it had happened to any other character though there would have been outraged in an entire storyline just by that. it's honestly a lot more examples throughout all the seasons and pretty much every episode Q is in somebody disregards something about him that doesn't fit into the white male protagonist role they're trying to shove him into. And that in and of itself proves but he doesn't fit into it because of nothing else that's true in all of the stories that center around the white male protagonist is that they get autonomy over there own characteristics.

Excuse any mistakes I writing this on my crappy phone at work and the talk to text feature hates me!

I rather Drown by set it off is fucking mood.

So I was listening to some music trying to get my mind off of the insane amounts of rage and grief and depression The Magicians has said often me to try get out of this headspace I've been in since sucking and Wednesday. Only but it comes to Have Fun Pandora I'd rather drown by Set It Off which ends up being a therapeutic moment of sing-along cuz to me it describes the exact amount of both rage and hurt and betrayal about not only Eliot and Quentin but their story lines and general The Magicians the and the stab in the back. They gave her the other characters and their growth this season just all of it. if anyone agrees with me and happens to do music videos please please do your magic because all I want to do is go beast and rip out my f****** shade!!!

Mike Wazowski

Okay little headcanon confession time. When I found out the monster didn't actually have a name, I kind of really wanted Quentin to name him Mike Wazowski! I kind of just thought it would be awesome scene for a Quentin to call the monster Mike and one of the other questers be all like Mike I'm a monster be like Mike Wazowski kind of like Boo from the Monster Machine movie and everybody just look at Quentin judging his nerdiness. Of naming an ancient god monster after a monster Inc movie character. And the fact is any other time they mention the name Mike monster could have had a little Mike Wazowski moment. so much so the longer he went without a name the more I wanted it and now after the tragedy that is the season finale it's practically cannon in my head after remind myself it's not true. Seriously we have a child like monster and nerdy ass Quentin to me it almost seemed perfect!

Beast Q! Timeline 23 a god?

Hey now that we know humans could be made into gods by taking the energy when a God dies into themselves or whatever does that mean time line 23 Beast Q was a god?

Actors Vs Writers

I'm getting kind of tired of people defending bad writing by saying how beautiful a scene or moment was or how much they like a character in those moments. Just because the actor are amazing enough to make you feel what they want you to feel in those scene doesn't mean the writing in that moment or leading up to that moment was good or validated enough of a payoff to justify what the writer are putting down. In media on any screen that tends to be the actors job. Any good actor can pull you in even if its not the best writing. Case and point the Star War Prequels. A great actor can break yout heart even when the story diresction or action have you scratching your head. They can have you love a character that you have no business even liking. A moving scene is sometimes, unfortunately more and more often now a days due to a actor then good writing or the deadly duo of both working together. It seems now a days writer go for the shock value then the content. Its always been my veiw that actor job to make us feel it and a writer job to make us believe it. If you cry\laugh\cheer or etc. During a scene thats the actor doing their job. If you look back and it still makes sense to you and you still believe and feel that way even away fro the media itself thats the writer doing theirs. Lately I have seen some pretty damn amazing acting for some down right shitty writer. Feeling vs Believing is a very real thing in media lately and it makes me incredibly sad to think of what they could have made if it wasnt so. Think of all those moving moments mixed in all the bad writing or cheap ending that leave the bitter taste of copout in your mouth and just how much more they could have been. Even if it wasnt the ending you want or were expecting it would still have ascended those moments if the direction\story\characteristics was believable.