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Apparently HBO has a documentary about the unaired pilot and most of the cast and grrm commented about what was wrong with it and George said that he didn't like the Dany/Drogo bedding scene in episode one because in his books is not rape because Dany consented the act. I mean is he aware she's a 13 old girl with grow man???
Yeah I’d like to beat him with a stick for saying it was consensual. Just because she was flushed and her heart was pounding (aka her body responding to his touches), she didn’t want to marry him or consummate the marriage at all.
What’s confusing for me is that grrm makes it very very clear in Daenerys first two chapters that 1) she’s terrified of drogo 2) doesn’t want to marry him and 3) that this is not a simple betrothal, but she’s being sold to her new husband.
Dany could hear the singing of the red priests as they lit their night fires and the shouts of ragged children playing games beyond the walls of the estate. For a moment she wished she could be out there with them, barefoot and breathless and dressed in tatters, with no past and no future and no feast to attend at Khal Drogo’s manse.
[...]
The old woman washed her long, silver-pale hair and gently combed out the snags, all in silence. The girl scrubbed her back and her feet and told her how lucky she was. “Drogo is so rich that even his slaves wear golden collars. A hundred thousand men ride in his khalasar, and his palace in Vaes Dothrak has two hundred rooms and doors of solid silver.” There was more like that, so much more, what a handsome man the khal was, so tall and fierce, fearless in battle, the best rider ever to mount a horse, a demon archer. Daenerys said nothing. She had always assumed that she would wed Viserys when she came of age. For centuries the Targaryens had married brother to sister, since Aegon the Conqueror had taken his sisters to bride. The line must be kept pure, Viserys had told her a thousand times; theirs was the kingsblood, the golden blood of old Valyria, the blood of the dragon. Dragons did not mate with the beasts of the field, and Targaryens did not mingle their blood with that of lesser men. Yet now Viserys schemed to sell her to a stranger, a barbarian.
When she was clean, the slaves helped her from the water and toweled her dry. The girl brushed her hair until it shone like molten silver, while the old woman anointed her with the spiceflower perfume of the Dothraki plains, a dab on each wrist, behind her ears, on the tips of her breasts, and one last one, cool on her lips, down there between her legs. They dressed her in the wisps that Magister Illyrio had sent up, and then the gown, a deep plum silk to bring out the violet in her eyes. The girl slid the gilded sandals onto her feet, while the old woman fixed the tiara in her hair, and slid golden bracelets crusted with amethysts around her wrists. Last of all came the collar, a heavy golden torc emblazoned with ancient Valyrian glyphs.
“Now you look all a princess,” the girl said breathlessly when they were done. Dany glanced at her image in the silvered looking glass that Illyrio had so thoughtfully provided. A princess, she thought, but she remembered what the girl had said, how Khal Drogo was so rich even his slaves wore golden collars. She felt a sudden chill, and gooseflesh pimpled her bare arms.
[...]
“She’s too skinny,” Viserys said. His hair, the same silver-blond as hers, had been pulled back tightly behind his head and fastened with a dragonbone brooch. It was a severe look that emphasized the hard, gaunt lines of his face. He rested his hand on the hilt of the sword that Illyrio had lent him, and said, “Are you sure that Khal Drogo likes his women this young?”
“She has had her blood. She is old enough for the khal,” Illyrio told him, not for the first time. “Look at her. That silver-gold hair, those purple eyes … she is the blood of old Valyria, no doubt, no doubt … and highborn, daughter of the old king, sister to the new, she cannot fail to entrance our Drogo.” When he released her hand, Daenerys found herself trembling.
[...]
She was still looking at this strange man from the homeland she had never known when Magister Illyrio placed a moist hand on her bare shoulder. “Over there, sweet princess,” he whispered, “there is the khal himself.”
Dany wanted to run and hide, but her brother was looking at her, and if she displeased him she knew she would wake the dragon. Anxiously, she turned and looked at the man Viserys hoped would ask to wed her before the night was done.
[...]
Dany looked at Khal Drogo. His face was hard and cruel, his eyes as cold and dark as onyx. Her brother hurt her sometimes, when she woke the dragon, but he did not frighten her the way this man frightened her. “I don’t want to be his queen,” she heard herself say in a small, thin voice. “Please, please, Viserys, I don’t want to, I want to go home.”
“Home!” He kept his voice low, but she could hear the fury in his tone. “How are we to go home, sweet sister? They took our home from us!” He drew her into the shadows, out of sight, his fingers digging into her skin. “How are we to go home?” he repeated, meaning King’s Landing, and Dragonstone, and all the realm they had lost.
Dany had only meant their rooms in Illyrio’s estate, no true home surely, though all they had, but her brother did not want to hear that. There was no home there for him. Even the big house with the red door had not been home for him. His fingers dug hard into her arm, demanding an answer. “I don’t know …” she said at last, her voice breaking. Tears welled in her eyes.
“I do,” he said sharply. “We go home with an army, sweet sister. With Khal Drogo’s army, that is how we go home. And if you must wed him and bed him for that, you will.” He smiled at her. “I’d let his whole khalasar fuck you if need be, sweet sister, all forty thousand men, and their horses too if that was what it took to get my army. Be grateful it is only Drogo. In time you may even learn to like him. Now dry your eyes. Illyrio is bringing him over, and he will not see you crying.”
Dany turned and saw that it was true. Magister Illyrio, all smiles and bows, was escorting Khal Drogo over to where they stood. She brushed away unfallen tears with the back of her hand.
“Smile,” Viserys whispered nervously, his hand falling to the hilt of his sword. “And stand up straight. Let him see that you have breasts. Gods know, you have little enough as is.”
Daenerys smiled, and stood up straight.
[...]
Daenerys Targaryen wed Khal Drogo with fear and barbaric splendor in a field beyond the walls of Pentos, for the Dothraki believed that all things of importance in a man’s life must be done beneath the open sky.
[...]
Yet that night she dreamt of one. Viserys was hitting her, hurting her. She was naked, clumsy with fear. She ran from him, but her body seemed thick and ungainly. He struck her again. She stumbled and fell. “You woke the dragon,” he screamed as he kicked her. “You woke the dragon, you woke the dragon.” Her thighs were slick with blood. She closed her eyes and whimpered. As if in answer, there was a hideous ripping sound and the crackling of some great fire. When she looked again, Viserys was gone, great columns of flame rose all around, and in the midst of them was the dragon. It turned its great head slowly. When its molten eyes found hers, she woke, shaking and covered with a fine sheen of sweat. She had never been so afraid……until the day of her wedding came at last.
[...]
Dany had never felt so alone as she did seated in the midst of that vast horde. Her brother had told her to smile, and so she smiled until her face ached and the tears came unbidden to her eyes. She did her best to hide them, knowing how angry Viserys would be if he saw her crying, terrified of how Khal Drogo might react. Food was brought to her, steaming joints of meat and thick black sausages and Dothraki blood pies, and later fruits and sweetgrass stews and delicate pastries from the kitchens of Pentos, but she waved it all away. Her stomach was a roil, and she knew she could keep none of it down.
There was no one to talk to. Khal Drogo shouted commands and jests down to his bloodriders, and laughed at their replies, but he scarcely glanced at Dany beside him. They had no common language. Dothraki was incomprehensible to her, and the khal knew only a few words of the bastard Valyrian of the Free Cities, and none at all of the Common Tongue of the Seven Kingdoms. She would even have welcomed the conversation of Illyrio and her brother, but they were too far below to hear her.
So she sat in her wedding silks, nursing a cup of honeyed wine, afraid to eat, talking silently to herself. I am blood of the dragon, she told herself. I am Daenerys Stormborn, Princess of Dragonstone, of the blood and seed of Aegon the Conqueror.
[...]
As the hours passed, the terror grew in Dany, until it was all she could do not to scream. She was afraid of the Dothraki, whose ways seemed alien and monstrous, as if they were beasts in human skins and not true men at all. She was afraid of her brother, of what he might do if she failed him. Most of all, she was afraid of what would happen tonight under the stars, when her brother gave her up to the hulking giant who sat drinking beside her with a face as still and cruel as a bronze mask. I am the blood of the dragon, she told herself again.
[...]
And after the gifts, she knew, after the sun had gone down, it would be time for the first ride and the consummation of her marriage. Dany tried to put the thought aside, but it would not leave her. She hugged herself to try to keep from shaking.
[...]
The last sliver of sun vanished behind the high walls of Pentos to the west just then. Dany had lost all track of time. Khal Drogo commanded his bloodriders to bring forth his own horse, a lean red stallion. As the khal was saddling the horse, Viserys slid close to Dany on her silver, dug his fingers into her leg, and said, “Please him, sweet sister, or I swear, you will see the dragon wake as it has never woken before.”
The fear came back to her then, with her brother’s words. She felt like a child once more, only thirteen and all alone, not ready for what was about to happen to her.
They rode out together as the stars came out, leaving the khalasar and the grass palaces behind. Khal Drogo spoke no word to her, but drove his stallion at a hard trot through the gathering dusk. The tiny silver bells in his long braid rang softly as he rode. “I am the blood of the dragon,” she whispered aloud as she followed, trying to keep her courage up. “I am the blood of the dragon. I am the blood of the dragon.” The dragon was never afraid.
Afterward she could not say how far or how long they had ridden, but it was full dark when they stopped at a grassy place beside a small stream. Drogo swung off his horse and lifted her down from hers. She felt as fragile as glass in his hands, her limbs as weak as water. She stood there helpless and trembling in her wedding silks while he secured the horses, and when he turned to look at her, she began to cry.
[...]
He removed her silks one by one, carefully, while Dany sat unmoving, silent, looking at his eyes. When he bared her small breasts, she could not help herself. She averted her eyes and covered herself with her hands. “No,” Drogo said. He pulled her hands away from her breasts, gently but firmly, then lifted her face again to make her look at him. “No,” he repeated.
It’s just gross and confusing to me. I don’t understand why if he wanted to make it come off as consensual, why did he write her to be absolutely terrified of drogo, have her tremble and cry, make it clear she’s a glorified slave for him, make it clear she doesn’t want to consummate the marriage, to just then turn around and say “Well it was consensual.”
Does he know that just because a persons body responds physically doesn’t mean they’re consenting to a sexual act? Does he know that a child cannot consent to a sexual act? It’s concerning and confusing for me.
Gotta love all those people crying about incest who act as if Dany and Jon having sex is more immoral than 30+ year-old Drogo raping 13 year-old Dany. Incest is wrong because it can cause genetic defects and is often non-consensual (the older person taking advantage of the younger person) but I don't get how consensual relationships between adults of the same age who don't even know they're related is worse than child sexual abuse?
I know … People are so close-minded, and very ignorant about incest in general. Incest simply means sex between people who are related by blood. It is not “non-consensual” by definition. I have read scientific articles about it. Incest causes genetic defects only because it results in homozygosity, which means possessing two identical forms of a gene. In itself homozygosity is not bad (we all are homozygotes for some genes), but it increases the chances of being affected by deleterious (harmful) traits. There are very few practical studies made on the subject (because nowadays people don’t practice incest), most of them are theoretical, but this increase is not enormous. Besides, there is also something called “outbreeding” (the opposite of inbreeding,) which can also have bad consequences on the genes.
But anyway this is a quick scientific explanation (that you didn’t ask for I know I’m sorry) of incest in our real world, and the point I am trying to make is that real incest is nowhere near as dramatic as people think it is.
Incest in ASOIAF is completely different. Targaryens and Valyrians didn’t suffer from any physical or mental deformitites - not more than those who didn’t practice incest. The Valyrians were, and by far, the most superior, advanced and powerful civilization on Planetos. They rode dragons, tamed volcanoes, built scyscrapers, used magic, and were the driving force for development and evolution in the world. Not to mention they were stunningly beautiful. So clearly inbreeding didn’t affect them in a negative way. The famous “Targaryen madness” that some members of the House displayed was an excess of cruelty, and there are no genes for cruelty. I don’t think it has anything to do with incest but rather with the dragon blood they have in them. Arguably the cruelest person of House Targaryen was Aerion Targaryen (Master Aemon’ elder brother) and he was not inbred at all. Neither his parents nor his four grandparents were related. Yet he still had the “Targaryen madness”. He is the one who drank wildfire because he believed it would transform him into a dragon.
And about the love part, I am so tired of fighting this battle … I don’t see anything wrong with two people loving each other and wanting to be together. One of the reason I ship Jaime and Cersei is because they are the only consensual couple among the main and recurring characters in ASOIAF till now (Jon and Daenerys haven’t yet met). All the other relations are either rape (Daenerys and Khal Drogo), arranged marriages (Catelyn and Eddard), prostitution (Shae and Tyrion), coerced sex (Ygritte and Jon) and so on. People are disgusted by incest although it is based on love and desire, but are fine with rape, arranged marriages, and other forms of abuse …
Another thing that annoys me to no end about Jon and Daenerys is that fans of House Stark believe that the House didn’t practice incest … lol. Nobody in Westeros practices sibling incest apart from House Targaryen, but cousin marriages and uncle/aunt/niece/nephew marriages occur regularly. People who think they know House Stark are claiming that Jon was raised according to “Stark morals” and is “too honorable” for incest (as if incest is dishonorable), meanwhile here I am clutching my book The World of Ice and Fire in which it is plainly written that at least two Stark men married their nieces, and cousin marriages were regular. I don’t know what they will do on the show (with D&D you can never know, maybe they will even make Daenerys concerned about incest), but book Jon certainly won’t be much disturbed by the fact that she is his aunt.
Anyway. The excuse people use against incest that “children can have genetic defects” is just that, an excuse. A lot of people believe Daenerys is barren and can’t have children - yet the same people are still against Jonerys because “it is incest!”. Why would they be, if they think she can’t have children? Incest is taboo in our world, and they’ve been conditioned to be against it. And very few people are able to look past what they’ve been taught, even in a Fantasy book series.
Is Dany really a underdog? She has dragons! She's top of the foodchain, not like the Starklings staying hidden and hunted. Arya, Sansa, Bran and Tyrion is who comes to mind when I think underdog.
When GRRM refers to underdogs he is referring to the characters at the start of the books. Jon, Dany, Arya and Tyrion are all underdogs when the story starts and Bran soon joins them in a couple of chapters. These are characters who don't normally fit into Westerosi society - that's GRRM's definition of the underdog. That they actively engage in changing their life, pursue power and obtain it doesn't negate their underdog status at the start. Jon is Lord Commander of the watch, doesn't change how he started the story and how he is still viewed as.
GRRM has always grouped Dany in along with the rest of the underdogs, sees her as a sympathetic character and identifies with her struggles.
2003 interview with GRRM (After ASoS):
Shaw: You created Jon as a bastard and an outcast from the get-go. Yet he's also one of the most attractive characters. Did you choose to make Jon a bastard to make him more attractive as an "underdog," or was his bastard birth central to the shaping of his character itself?
Martin: Almost all the characters have problems in some way. Very few of my major viewpoint characters have all the answers or have an easy path through life. They all have burdens to bear. Some of them are women in a society that doesn't necessarily value women or give them a lot of power or independence. Tyrion of course is a dwarf which has its own challenges. Dany is an exile, powerless, penniless, at the mercy of other people, and Jon is a bastard. These things shape their characters. Your experiences in life, your place in life inevitably is going to change who you are.
http://www.asimovs.com/_issue_0410/theheartofasmall.shtml
Jon Snow has me in him, and Sam Tarly. The women too, Lyanna and Shaara, and the girls, Arya and Adara … Daenerys Stormborn, searching for that house with the red door. And Tyrion Lannister? Oh, yes. The Imp is me in spades, the horny little bastard.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjreiP50DG8
“I had a walk past that house every day on my way from the projects on 1st Street to 5th Street, and it’s like, well, that used to be our dock, that used to be our house. Now we don’t have a house, we don’t have a yard, but I had always had the sense of, yeah I’m poor, but I come from royalty, or I come from greatness that somehow was destroyed by the depression, by corrupt politicians, by things like that. So maybe that gives me a little of the emotional temperament to understand somebody like Daenerys Targaryen.
There was a watchman on the dock, though, and if he saw us he’d come out of his shed and shout at us. "Get out of here, you kids,” he’d yell. “You got no business here.” Yes, I do, part of me always wanted to shout back, you’re the one who’s got no business, my great-grandfather BUILT this dock.
This theme of fallen families is one that made it directly into A Song of Ice and Fire, George explained, in the characters Daenerys and Viserys Targaryen. With that same feeling of loss of a future, wondering about the family he never knew and their upper class lifestyles, he felt like disinherited royalty much like the two Targaryen siblings. When Dany reads about Westeros in the books she received from her wedding, or when Barristan told her stories about her brother Rhaegar, or she lands in Dragonstone and walks in her family’s home those are actually George wondering about his own family and dreaming of a better life stolen from him in the projects of Bayonne.
There needs to be a study into why people love to refer to the Targ’s as ‘white saviours’ as if almost every damn house/person in that world aren’t white or some variation of white 🙄
Dany is freeing slaves therefore to them she is a white saviour and that extends to her family. Never mind that the slavery in ASoIaF is more akin to that of the Roman Empire.
They just love to hate and do it illogically, which is what bothers me most.
The fact that Daenerys’ novella “blood of the dragon” was published in July 1996 and AGOT was published August 1996 which means she won GRRM a Hugo Award, the most prestigious literary award in science fiction and fantasy, before ASOIAF was an existing series.. yeah def don’t compare your flop faves to her.
Look it up, this is true!
Daenerys Is Also An Outcast
I've been rereading the books with my friend and normally i notice the typical outcasts like Tyrion, Jon, Arya, and Jaime (after his hand gets chopped), but no one ever brings up that Dany is also an outcast at least in the
first book and i think it's intentional by George. By the very nature of her blood she's an outcast. I think people assume or forget that even though she's a Targaryen which would in any other previous timeline would be a plus in the current timeline it's a negative.
She's been on the run her whole life avoiding assassins and never having a true stable place to grow and I think that gets downplayed by readers.
There's no other highborn POV that i can remember who has this background. Tyrion, Jon and Arya are for sure outcasts who get treated differently but they all grew up in castles with the best of the best.
What did Dany have other than Viserys? Viserys was good for a time but after he sold their mothers crown he became cruel and abusive. Then her brother sells her to Khal Drogo, a much older man who Viserys says "he'd let the whole kalassar you know what her" and then she's sold like cattle because she's simply a bargaining tool since she's a girl.
After her marriage to Khaal Drogo the assault is so bad that she says she's unalive herself. She's in the absolute lowest place and luckily she has her dragon dream but if not she would've been gone.
Sorry I'm kinda rambling but I just wonderd why she's not included in the outcast discussion. She's 14 year old child bride who's been on the run her whole life who never had power until she was sold to Khaal Drogo and even then it was a very small act of power. George himself says in an interview “Dany is an exile, powerless, penniless, at the mercy of other people” 2003 interview with GRRM(after ASOS) the dragon Robert Shaw. To me that's an outcast.
"What fools we were, who thought ourselves so wise!"
GRRM's very first novel Dying of the Light features a bookworm character named Jaan Vikary conspicuously resembling Prince Rhaegar, who did his deep history research and figured an ancient hero that's supposed to be at the root of his culture was a woman, and a lot of people getting so angry over this revelation they kept dueling him over it.
"No one ever looked for a girl..."
"And you think the planet was High Kavalaan?" Dirk asked. "It is known for a fact," Vikary replied. "The coordinates match, and other fascinating pieces of data as well. The colony was named Cavanaugh, for example. Perhaps even more intriguing, the leader of the first expedition was a starship captain named Kay Smith. A woman." Gwen smiled at that.
"Our reasons for being here go beyond that, however. It was vital that I leave High Kavalaan at the time I did. When I took on my highnames and published my theories, I became at once very powerful and celebrated in highbond council, and very hated. Many religious men took personal insult from my contention that Kay Iron-Smith was a woman. I was challenged six times on that account alone. In the last duel, Garse killed a man, while I wounded his teyn so badly that he will never walk again. I was not willing to let this go on."
GEORGE R. R. MARTIN’S STATEMENTS AND HOUSE OF THE DRAGON INDICATING THAT DAENERYS TARGARYEN IS THE PROPHESIED HERO OF A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE
George R. R. Martin: *associates Daenerys with the founder of the Targaryen dynasty who intended to unite Westeros in preparation for the War for the Dawn - she’s literally called “Aegon the Conqueror with teats”*
*has Daenerys dream about burning white walkers with dragonfire*
*makes it clear that Daenerys is Azor Ahai/Princess That Was Promised* (“Azor Ahai shall […] wake dragons out of stone”/“No one ever looked for a girl. […] Daenerys is the one. […] The dragons prove it.”)
*confirms that Daenerys and her dragons are the Fire - which, according to his own description, symbolizes “love”, “passion” and “sexual ardor” in contrast to Ice representing “betrayal”, “revenge” and “cold inhumanity” - of A Song of Ice and Fire*
House of the Dragon (note that GRRM had more influence on that show than on Game of Thrones): *plays a song called “The Prince That Was Promised” - which was inspired by Daenerys’ theme songs - during the reveal of Aegon I’s prophetic dream (which came from GRRM himself)*
*has Aegon I name his dream ‘the song of ice and fire’ - which, as the GRRM himself already confirmed, refers to the Others and Daenerys Targaryen and her dragons*
*reveals that Aegon I’s dream (aka the song of ice and fire) is about a Targaryen king or queen - most likely Daenerys Targaryen - uniting humanity against the Others*
*has Daemon see the red comet (aka the herald of Azor Ahai) before it cuts to Daenerys (aka Aegon the Conqueror with teats, Azor Ahai Returned/Prince That Was Promised, the Fire of ASOIAF) and her dragons (aka Lightbringer) in his prophetic dream*
the delusionland of the asoiaf fandom denying that aegon passed his dream to other targaryens… even if it wasn’t in a form of ‘kings telling their heirs’ like it was in hotd, it is still a thing that grrm himself comments on saying ‘the targaryens that knew about it’.
meaning, aegon didn’t just keep it to himself because, as grrm says, different generations suspected it could happen ‘in my life time or my son’s timeline’. aegon’s dream, aka the song of ice and fire wasn’t just lost and we have a concrete evidence of that in the books: rhaegar ‘finding something in his scrolls’ and talking about ‘the prince that was promised’ whose song is ‘the song of ice and fire’. what’s not clicking? stay tuned for the second episode where rhaenyra actually talks about tptwp lol
(HOTD spoilers) Confirmed: Aegon the Conqueror’s prophetic dream is ‘The Song of Ice and Fire’
“There’s something else that I need to tell you. It might me be difficult for you to understand but you must hear it. Our histories, they tell us that Aegon looked across the Blackwater from Dragonstone and saw a rich land ripe for the capture. But ambition alone is not what drove him to conquest. It was a dream. And just as Daenys foresaw the end of Valyria Aegon foresaw the end of the world of men. ‘Tis to begin with a terrible winter gusting out of the distant north. And whatever dwells within will destroy the world of the living. Aegon saw absolute darkness riding on those winds. When this Great winter comes, Rhaenyra, all of Westeros must stand against it. And if the world of men is to survive a Targaryen must be seated on the Iron Throne. A king or queen strong enough to unite the realm against the cold and the dark. Aegon called his dream ‘The Song of Ice and Fire’. This secret, it’s been passed from king to heir since Aegon’s time. Now you must promise to carry it and protect it. Promise me this, Rhaenyra. Promise me’
— Viserys I Targaryen
GEORGE R. R. MARTIN’S STATEMENTS AND HOUSE OF THE DRAGON INDICATING THAT DAENERYS TARGARYEN IS THE PROPHESIED HERO OF A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE
George R. R. Martin: *associates Daenerys with the founder of the Targaryen dynasty who intended to unite Westeros in preparation for the War for the Dawn - she’s literally called “Aegon the Conqueror with teats”*
*has Daenerys dream about burning white walkers with dragonfire*
*makes it clear that Daenerys is Azor Ahai/Princess That Was Promised* (“Azor Ahai shall […] wake dragons out of stone”/“No one ever looked for a girl. […] Daenerys is the one. […] The dragons prove it.”)
*confirms that Daenerys and her dragons are the Fire - which, according to his own description, symbolizes “love”, “passion” and “sexual ardor” in contrast to Ice representing “betrayal”, “revenge” and “cold inhumanity” - of A Song of Ice and Fire*
House of the Dragon (note that GRRM had more influence on that show than on Game of Thrones): *plays a song called “The Prince That Was Promised” - which was inspired by Daenerys’ theme songs - during the reveal of Aegon I’s prophetic dream (which came from GRRM himself)*
*has Aegon I name his dream ‘the song of ice and fire’ - which, as the GRRM himself already confirmed, refers to the Others and Daenerys Targaryen and her dragons*
*reveals that Aegon I’s dream (aka the song of ice and fire) is about a Targaryen king or queen - most likely Daenerys Targaryen, also known as Aegon the Conqueror with teats, Azor Ahai Returned/Princess That Was Promised, the Fire of ASOIAF - uniting humanity against the Others*
They knew, they knew, they knew, they knew.
George confirmed it.
[Source]
“Aegon finally decided to take over Westeros and unify the Seven Kingdoms that existed at the time, under a single rule. There is a lot of speculation that in some sense he saw what was coming 300 years later and wanted to unify the Seven Kingdoms to be better prepared for the threat that he eventually saw coming from the north – the threat that we’re dealing with in A Song of Ice and Fire.”
—
– George R. R. Martin
In case anyone missed it, GRRM is pro-Conquest and pro-unified Westeros. The Targaryens taking over the rule of the Seven Kingdoms is treated as a positive necessity. The intent was to protect the continent from the main villains of the series, the ice zombies called the Others. They are not villains and their loss of the Iron Throne is a threat to the unity Aegon I tried to create. Dany retaking Westeros is what she believes is what will help the county and what she has been told the people of Westeros want. If she learns that her ancestor unified the continent to protect it from zombies, that will make her cause even more righteous.
(via queenaryastark)
“He always slept better with the great white wolf beside him; there was comfort in the smell of him, and welcome warmth in that shaggy pale fur,” - Jon VII, A Clash of Kings
GEORGE R. R. MARTIN’S STATEMENTS AND HOUSE OF THE DRAGON INDICATING THAT DAENERYS TARGARYEN IS THE PROPHESIED HERO OF A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE
George R. R. Martin: *associates Daenerys with the founder of the Targaryen dynasty who intended to unite Westeros in preparation for the War for the Dawn - she’s literally called “Aegon the Conqueror with teats”*
*has Daenerys dream about burning white walkers with dragonfire*
*makes it clear that Daenerys is Azor Ahai/Princess That Was Promised* (“Azor Ahai shall […] wake dragons out of stone”/“No one ever looked for a girl. […] Daenerys is the one. […] The dragons prove it.”)
*confirms that Daenerys and her dragons are the Fire - which, according to his own description, symbolizes “love”, “passion” and “sexual ardor” in contrast to Ice representing “betrayal”, “revenge” and “cold inhumanity” - of A Song of Ice and Fire*
House of the Dragon (note that GRRM had more influence on that show than on Game of Thrones): *plays a song called “The Prince That Was Promised” - which was inspired by Daenerys’ theme songs - during the reveal of Aegon I’s prophetic dream (which came from GRRM himself)*
*has Aegon I name his dream ‘the song of ice and fire’ - which, as the GRRM himself already confirmed, refers to the Others and Daenerys Targaryen and her dragons*
*reveals that Aegon I’s dream (aka the song of ice and fire) is about a Targaryen king or queen - most likely Daenerys Targaryen, also known as Aegon the Conqueror with teats, Azor Ahai Returned/Princess That Was Promised, the Fire of ASOIAF - uniting humanity against the Others*
gratitude and apology.
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A Song of Ice and Fire (ASOIAF) Novel Series Revision
Dear mr. George Raymond Richard Martin, I think you really need to do revision to your ASOIAF (A Song of Ice and Fire) novel series. Like.. several parts in your series need to be revised/A.K.A re-writing. PLEASE, a lot of ASOIAF enthusiasts feel the same feeling just like me‼️❗️😭🥹🥺
I'm highly, highly, and highly SUGGESTING‼️❗️. But of course I know, as the AUTHOR, I know the decision is up to YOU SIR. I will not forcing, I'm just highly SUGGESTING as an enthusiast of ASOIAF.
Thank you!! With all respect❗️😊
Also, additional thing that I add here:
This is my chat message with ChatGPT (AI) about house stark animal sigil. The answer from ChatGPT I got:
The answer from ChatGPT I got:
"Absolutely, I understand now. You're envisioning a scenario where House Stark, while retaining the direwolf as their official sigil, also has giant mystical birds as pets or companions. These birds would serve as a non-official symbol and have their own special significance within the Stark lore. Here’s how this concept could play out:
Giant Mystical Birds as Pets for House Stark
*1. *Role and Significance
Companionship: These giant birds could serve as loyal companions to the Stark family, much like the direwolves are. They could have a close bond with the Starks, symbolizing trust and deep connection with nature.
Mystical Attributes: The birds might possess unique abilities or attributes, such as enhanced senses or the ability to perform certain magical feats. This could align with the ancient and mystical aspects of the North.
Symbolic Value: While not the official sigil, the birds could be a non-official symbol representing the Starks’ connection to the mystical elements of their land and their bond with nature.
*2. *Potential Characteristics
Appearance: The giant mystical birds could have striking features, such as large wings, iridescent feathers, or eyes that seem to glow with an inner light. They might be designed to reflect the harsh beauty of the North.
Behavior: They could have behaviors that reflect their mystical nature, such as soaring over the icy landscapes of the North, acting as watchful guardians, or being able to sense changes in the environment.
Abilities: The birds could have unique powers, such as sensing danger from afar, communicating telepathically, or even providing visions or warnings of impending events.
*3. *Integration into Stark Lore
Cultural Significance: These birds could be deeply embedded in the cultural practices and stories of House Stark. They might appear in Stark family traditions, folklore, and even in the teachings of the Old Gods.
Personal Companions: Individual members of House Stark could have their own giant bird companions, each with a special bond to its respective Stark. For instance, Sansa might have a bird that is particularly attuned to her emotions and decisions.
Guardians of Winterfell: The birds might be seen as protectors of Winterfell and the Stark lands, playing a role in the defense of the castle or in scouting the surrounding areas.
*4. *Visual and Narrative Impact
Imagery: Artwork, tapestries, and stories could feature these giant birds alongside the direwolves, highlighting their importance in Stark life and culture.
Symbolic Representation: While the direwolf remains the official sigil, the giant birds could be used in informal or ceremonial contexts, reflecting their special status within the Stark family.
Conclusion
In this scenario, while the direwolf remains the official sigil of House Stark, the giant mystical birds become an important non-official symbol, enhancing the family’s lore and adding depth to their connection with the mystical and natural world of the North. This concept provides an additional layer of richness to the Stark family’s heritage and their relationship with their environment."
SO, WHAT I MEAN IS, NOT ONLY THE GIANT BIRDS, BUT NORMAL SIZED BIRDS TOO!! A.K.A THE BIRDS IN GENERAL BECOME THE PETS FOR THE STARKS!
House Stark has birds (giant birds and normal sized birds) + direwolves and regular wolves as their pets‼️. The birds as the animals who also symbolize the house A.K.A non-official symbol for House Stark meanwhile the sigil (official symbol) for the starks still direwolf.
Here is the Visualization from ChatGPT (AI) about this:
A Song of Ice and Fire (ASOIAF) Novel Series Revision
Dear mr. George Raymond Richard Martin, I think you really need to do revision to your ASOIAF (A Song of Ice and Fire) novel series. Like.. several parts in your series need to be revised/A.K.A re-writing. PLEASE, a lot of ASOIAF enthusiasts feel the same feeling just like me‼️❗️😭🥹🥺
I'm highly, highly, and highly SUGGESTING‼️❗️. But of course I know, as the AUTHOR, I know the decision is up to YOU SIR. I will not forcing, I'm just highly SUGGESTING as an enthusiast of ASOIAF.
Thank you!! With all respect❗️😊
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A Song of Ice and Fire (ASOIAF) Novel Series Revision
Dear mr. George Raymond Richard Martin, I think you really need to do revision to your ASOIAF (A Song of Ice and Fire) novel series. Like.. several parts in your series need to be revised/A.K.A re-writing. PLEASE, a lot of ASOIAF enthusiasts feel the same feeling just like me‼️❗️😭🥹🥺
I'm highly, highly, and highly SUGGESTING‼️❗️. But of course I know, as the AUTHOR, I know the decision is up to YOU SIR. I will not forcing, I'm just highly SUGGESTING as an enthusiast of ASOIAF.
Thank you!! With all respect❗️😊
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