Epic The Wisdom Saga - Tumblr Posts
Spoilers about the wisdom saga
Im crying over a musical about the Odyssey in which a man ask for a Olympian goddess help which was his exfriend and mentor and to do that the deity has to convince certain gods to release him but ends up severely injured by her father but probably isn't dead fine
“If I fight those monsters, is it you I’ll find?”
Cause Odysseus is a monster. He’s the monster that Telemachus would find
UGH
telemachus when a hundred men break into his house and call his mom a tramp or something idk
Our catified design for the stinky man who tried to beat up and traumatized Telemachus (he sure did the first- but after We’d Be Fine it seems as if Telemachus thought it was fun- I guess you didn’t beat out the good coping mechanisms Antinous)
EPIC: The musical Catfied quick Antinous design
I’m just waiting for the wisdom Saga to come out, I literally can’t wait for it- it needs to come out now or I’m going to have a heart attack/j
Anyways quick Antinous design! Not much thought went behind it? I just feel like he has a whole lot of reds on him. I kinda wanted him to look grungy and kinda dirty? I wanted his tail fur to be very bushy, as if he’s constantly bristling it. this is a doodle btw, not my actual style (for those who don’t know my account)
anyways I hate him 😊 he’s awful. But BOY OMG I LOVE HIS VOICE LIKE FHBDBDHD he sounds so giddy about mutilating Telemachus, like bro is practically kicking his feet in the air and giggling about it.
SINCE MY TWIN MENTIONED THE DRAWING
HERE HAVE IT (made by @thepowerofyes)
GRRR GRRRRR YOU GUYS DONT UNDERSTAND JUST HOW MUCH THIS FUCKING MEANS TO MEEEEEEEE
LOOK AT TELEMACHUS’S EXPRESSION
LOOK AT THE OTHER CHARACTER’S GENTLE EXPRESSION 🥹🥹
RAHHHH TWO OF MY COMFORT CHARACTERSSSSS 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
CAN WE APPRECIATE HOW WELL THE CLOTHS ARE DRAWN????? PLEASE FOLLOW MY AMAZINGLY SWEET BROTHER
I wish I had Art to show of Telemachus but I don’t BJDHDJD I’VE BEEN BUSY DHDHDHGDF AAGHH THE WISDOM SAGA IS LITERALLY FUCKING KILLING ME THO DJFHDJBDJFBDHDJDHDHFJDFHNDDHDHDBHFHD I LOVE EVERY SONG THERE
I do have Eurylochus patting the head of a character who isn’t an EPIC character I also have a drawing my brother made of Telemachus getting held by a character who’s from the same thing as the previous mentioned character (theyre actually siblings)
Me who HCs Telemachus as Aro/Ace
ITS SO PRETTY
I know this prob ain’t a shounen anime but- Telemachus is SO SO MUCH like Riko from Made In Abyss (I’d list the similarities but I don’t wanna make this too long) 😭😭😭😤😤
Telemachus my favorite shounen anime protagonist (i'm going to yap)
telemachus my favorite shounen anime protagonist
i keep saying it but just love the video game/anime inspiration like as we approach the end of the musical its just so apparent lol
gods game as a tournament for athena i just kept thinking about my hero academia LMAO wolfy did so good presenting the gods in the animatic
i just think of telemachus similar to hinata from haikyu -- like he's just a bundle of joy/sunshine to me hehe
of course i will draw ody angst but wanted to get the fun moments out of the way
i kinda wanna draw an anime style god games poster kinda like a promo art for a show but then too many characters (lazy)
can there be a place where there are official character designs for epic i keep pausing videos for reference
athena/telemachus was one of my fav duos in the Odyssey and this musical just made me love it more
can i just say?????? the fandom is insane like there were COMPLETE ANIMATED SEQUENCES????? in the live??? like artists are crazy
it doesn’t help that this fandoms bends over backwards to demonize Odysseus. No matter the circumstances 😕😕
I'm watching people trauma bond with Calypso from EPIC in real-time. Y'all. A character can be a woman and be a rapist at the same time. And her being a woman doesn't mean that ACTUALLY there's some trauma in her past that justifies her imprisoning men on her island and taking them to bed against their will, it means that she's a rapist that just happens to also be a woman.
I love how Calypso is depicted in EPIC, she's just dripping with a nastiness that is only matched by Penelope's entitled suitors. She's sugary sweet at the outset, but when Odysseus rather violently rejects her, she laughs at his rejection, saying he's adorable when he's angry and that he doesn't have any choice but to submit to her will as a god. And then she goes right back to the sweet lover in paradise ruse!!! It's sickening! She denies his autonomy because it gets in the way of the fantasy romance that she's forcing upon him.
So, I'm frustrated with people trying to paint it as though she's the victim in the situation, that what she's doing is somehow okay because she's a pretty woman and they feel bad for her. That's so patronizing.
I've seen people justify her behaviour by saying she's lonely. Tough shit get a hobby. Being starved for affection has never justified being an abuser.
I've seen people insist she truly cares about Odysseus because she tries to talk him down from suicide... but an abuser talking you down from taking drastic measures to escape their abuse isn't them showing genuine care, it's them not wanting the game to end, it's them exerting control over your very life. If anything, it's more disturbing because she is the one who drove him to be suicidal. So she's playing this game where she drives him to the precipice and then tries to lure him back down with "reminders" of "their love", those reminders actually being of the words of his dead loved ones that she's pilfered and warped as though they were her own.
The most ridiculous argument I've seen in defending Calypso's behaviour is saying that we can't use terms like "rapist" for her because "it was a different time" so "it's not certain whether or not what she did would be considered non-consensual for the time"... Like must I even point out that... that sleeping with someone against their will has always been and will always be rape? Anyway, her actions fit the ancient definition of rape to a t anyhow, so it's weird to try and weaponize "cultural differences" for the sake of having plausible deniability in Calypso's favour. Rape is also used to mean kidnapping, which is why we have pieces titled the Rape of Ganymede, the Rape of Persephone, etc..
Even if Jorge were to come out and say that, somehow, nothing sexual took place on Calypso's island in seven years, that despite her explicitly telling Odysseus that his "no" means nothing to her as a goddess she somehow never went so far as to sexually assault him... it doesn't make her abuse any less bad that she spared him that one trauma! Like holy shit dude.
Imagine if there was an adaptation that featured Zeus' rape of Io, and the audience responded to every literally dehumanizing action Zeus took against Io by saying "ooohh but he's lonely. i feel bad for him the most he's just a widdle lonely baby man. his wife is so meaaan."
CHARLIE WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS??? /POs WHAT HUH?? THERES NO WAY YOU JUST CASUALLY DROPPED THE MOST GORGEOUS PEICE OF ART TO US??? WHY IS THE LIGHTING SO DAMN GOOD?? LIKE THE DETAIL ON THE WATER, THE CLOUDS?? THE AMBIENT SHADING IN ODY?? THE DETAILS ON THE SAND??
GODS THIS IS SO ATMOSPHERIC?? LIKE I CAN JUST FUCKIN FEEL IT YOU KNOW?? I JUST CANT GET OVER THE LIGHTING IT REALLY MAKES ODY FEEL LIKE A SOLID THING BUT ALSO A SOLID THING IN A REALL ENVIRONMENT
ALSO CAN WE TALK ABOU ODY’S EXPRESSION??? HOW HIS TEARS ARE DRAWN??? THE DESPAIR HOPELESSNESS IN HIS EYES??
YOU DREW MY DESIGN SO WELLLL GRRRR SHJSSJS I ADORE HOW YOU DREW HIS FUR AND LEGSSSS
GRRRHDJDHDJDUD WORDS CAN NOT EXPRESS HOW MUCH I LOVE THIS
@bleedinghearthypocrit (sorry tagging you bc your an EPIC fan and also bc I really really want to show you my lovely brother’s art!)
Odysseus - Gift Art for @seasonalmoss @thequasarwinds !!
Design is theirs ! I love Ody
First draw of October with the little wolf and my little owl :>
October 1st: pumpkin
SpeedPaint:
He just wants to get home lol
Finished Commission for @zigadoodle !!!
She's so pretty!!!
part one of my epic the musical god/goddess designs
First up Aphrodite!!!
so when making designs I have a hard time straying from the source material. Like its so bad once when I was a kid I refuse to use a coloring book my mom got me because I had never watched the show and so didn't know what the characters looked like, I wouldn't just color them in however so making the Greek gods/ goddess is definitely out of my comfort zone.
Some fun facts (literally one fact) about the design:
The sash around her waist is in reference to a painting of her with Ares and two of their sons.
I didn't add any shading because I suck at it.
Epic theory: we know Jay loves causing pain and having family members step in...Do we think in the Ithaca saga (idk which song) he might include Odysseus's sister and maybe have her ask about HER husband (Eurolychus)???
Morning after listening to the Wisdom Saga and I went back to WotM where Ody sings “ATHENA, BADASS IN THE ARENA” and couldn’t get the heavy emotional part of Love in Paradise where he screams her name again out of my head so now I can’t stop thinking about like
*Heavy emotional moment, somber music, the echoing words of all who have fallen surround Odysseus atop the cliff as he screams out.*
“ATHENA!!!”
*music stops. A sniffle.*
“Badass in the arena… 😔”
“Unmatched witty and queen of the best strategies we’ve seen… 😞”
I think it’s worth pointing out too that at this point, he stops saying words. He is in so much pain and agony remembering his fallen friends, that he can’t even verbalize to Calypso what’s going on in his head. He just yells. No details, no point to be made. Just pure agony, and I think that’s such a heartbreaking and powerful choice that was made.
no you don't understand all he heard were screams until calypso mentioned polites' phrase and then all he hears is how much longer till your luck runs out and this life is amazing when you greet it with open arms and all he heard were the screams until he thinks of his best friends and now all he can hear are their songs as they tried to guide him away from tragedy in the only ways they knew and it almost hurts worse than the screams because all that blood was on his hands but those two were his friends and they tried and he tried and it wasn't enough because his luck finally ran out-
TELEMACHUS MY BABY😭🫶🫶
I can't tell if I need a Telemachus or a Athena in my life
gods game in a nutshell:
Apollo: he killed my favourite band
Athena: they were problematic
Apollo: ok free him I don’t care
Zeus: APOLLO! D:<